Is Faith Reasonable?

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ohmylanta1003 said:

hershel_layton said:
This shouldn't be political.

99% of conservatives are die-hard Christians. They still think evolution is a "myth". They also think that anything in the Bible means it's true.

99% of liberals won't even give a response. They'll call you racist(even though religion has nothing to do with race). They also have a funny idea of what freedom of speech is. They can criticize everything they want, yet they'll cry that they're being harassed if someone says one word against them.


Leave this to scientists(and real ones. Not those idiot creationists in the south that claim to be "professionals"). When scientists debate, there usually isn't any bias or feelings brought into the argument. It can create great arguments that'll usually find an answer(even if it isn't clear).

 

This is ridiculous. First of all, you made up the first stat. Secondly, I love your last paragraph. That's what every non-creationist says when this topic comes up. "It's proven by science done by scientists". Don't you get tired of saying that? Do you realize how uninformed you sound? Or how little evidence there actually is to explain anything about the start of the universe?

 

He is not misinformed at all. You are. Probable been forced fed all sorts of lies and half-truths to believe that way. The thing about evolution is that it's been verified in countless fossils and verified in the lab looking at the DNA strings. Unsurprisingly they coincide at the start with things like plants - i know... creationists can't even begin to fathom that because they never understood how evolution works. Usually a creationist can only picture things fully grown or non-existant and thinks he understands the world better than evidence. There is a full picture of evolution. This isn't just one piece of evidence, its many that fit perfectly with many other paralel ones and can be understood from the simple to the complex and later predicted.

Oh and for that always enlighted claim that a "theory" doesnt have proof. "theory of gravity" would like a word with you. Theories don't graduate to like laws or something. But scientific theories are supported by evidence and are fact. Make no mistake, evolution is a fact. Anyone saying it isn't is in complete denial.

Cool statements like "how can something come from nothing?" when adressing the beggining of the universe, like simple human logic can be applied in the sub-atomic level. Besides, "nothing" has never been observed. It is not observable, its merely a human created concept. Our minds weren't originally built to understand more than the world around us. Of course using its most basic tools isn't going to give us the answer to the most complicated question. And the answer has to be structured. From simple to complex. When the answer starts with a more complex beeing than the answer to the question you are trying to answer, it merely raises more questions and goes against everything else observed in the universe.

It's still absolutely amazing to me, how there are people who still believe religion has any sort of evidence or even reasonable doubt. I understand hope, that i do. But religion was merely a tool created to control the masses in a time where there was no law and no policement. We have those things now. Religion only remains due to its fanaticism and is used as the excuse for violent behaviour, and that makes it the sorce for potencially the worst people alive, because they are willing to violate the preciousness of human life in the name of ancient charlaton schemes. You are capable of kindness yourself, you don't need a book to tell you that.