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Nem said:
DélioPT said:
Nintendo spent quiet for 1.5 years regarding Wii U projects or significant ones?

These are games announced/shown at E3 that were released in the year or years after that E3:

E3 2013 - Mario Kart 8; Bayonetta 2; XC X; DKCR TP; Smash Brothers, Yoshi
E3 2014 - Kirby; Starfox; Splatoon; Mario Maker
E3 2015 - Animal Crossing and Mario Tennis

Nem, do you see the difference? And i'm not even including games announced/first shown outside of E3 like Hyrule Warriors, Mario 3D World, Captain Toad and FExSMT.

You don't hold back games for a console that has no 3rd party support. You show what you got because you have nothing more.
If Nintendo really had intentions of supporting Wii U until 2017, you would have seen them announced at E3 last year, yet, you saw pratically nothing. That, is a sign of a platform that has reached it's end and not a sign of a console that will last into 2017.

 

I love how you guys think that Nintendo is this powerhouse that is holding back this huge development power and are seeking external help cause they are totally focused on the next project. Nintendo is already pumping as many titles as they can. The external help is there because they can't cope.

But i don't deny that they are working on NX stuff already. What i deny is that if the NX is a next-gen console and it will be ready this year. Pretty much zero chance of that happening. Complete pipe dream. If it did the NX would rushed into the market with small or extremely rushed titles that couldn't possibly display its potencial. A complete disaster.

Even if its the next-gen portable, it will be unlikely it will be ready in terms of software. But at least its more likely than a next-gen console.

AKA, Nintendo never even hinted at a 2016 release, and anyone that looks at Nintendo's last 5 years knows the mere sugestion is wishful thinking.

"I love how you guys think that Nintendo is this powerhouse that is holding back this huge development power..."

What i said was exactly the opposite: Nintendo doesn't have the resources to really support it's consoles all the way. And more than once did that became reality: GC's and Wii's last years are proof of that.
And if you look at what is happening, the lack of games last year at E3 shows exactly that: Nintendo is preparing for next gen. And that's why you saw a lack of games announced for Wii U last year.

Co-operating with other studios could mean a few things, one of them could be that Nintendo's role is more of a Directing position in the development or even being charge of the minor things.

Actually the last years do show that Nintendo can not ride Wii U any longer and for several reasons: they don't have 3rd party support to make up for their games' absence; retailers would not accept that situation; sales are already low enough for any console to be replaced, let alone live 2 more years; Nintendo wants Nintendo like profits... now!

If Nintendo launches NX home console in 2017 with what or they going to fill their release schedule? Where are the games? If they have them why didn't they announce them last year?
And the reason is they don't have them. They might even have a surprise or two but normal support? They don't.
If they somehow managed to announce more Wii U games for 2017 that would endanger NX's support and after Wii U i really doubt they are going to take that huge risk.

Why would NX be rushed? XB360, despite it's RROD problem turned out great despite PS3 being a superior machine - one year after.
Why would Nintendo rush titles? 2016 and 2017 would mean Nintendo had pratically 2 years to develop games and release them. How is that rushed?

Again, it's not that NX can't be released in 2017, it's that after Wii U's disaster you don't act like nothing happen. You cut your losses and move on to next console as soon as possbile!
It's Nintendo's position in the home console business that is at stake here. And the stakes are really high this time.

 

Miyamotoo said:
DélioPT said:
 

Actually XC C and Yoshi were announced at ND in January 2013.

I put Yoshi in the wrong year. But i didn't separate the January ND and E3 because they were almost one and the same.

 

bigtakilla said:
Miyamotoo said:

Bayo 2 was announced in Sept, 2012.

  You're right. I forgot about that.