Is Faith Reasonable?

[JRPGfan]

JWeinCom said:

JRPGfan said:

JWeinCom said:

God made a lot more laws then the ten commandments.  If you believe that those are directly from god, I'm not sure why you think everything else the book claims god said or did doesn't count.

But, people at one time did believe it took seven days, and there are still peope who believe in a young earth, and Noah's ark.  And there are still tons and tons of people who believe that Jesus literally rose from the dead.

These things used to be taken at face value, but as science has gotten better and better, things that are impossible have been written off as metaphor.  And, if you want to read the bible as a metaphorical book, then fine.  But, there are MANY people who suggest that we, and our government, should take certain parts of the bible VERY literally, and live our lives and base our laws around it. 

Protestantism... basically all my life Ive been told the only thing that counts to any degree at all is whats in the new testiment.

The storys about jesus's teachings, nothing else is real. And even that is just accounts of storys about jesus life, written down by man.

Its open to interpretations.

The only thing thats from god are the 10 commandments (so Ive been told anyways).

If the only thing that counts is in the new testament, then why did we need Jesus?  Wasn't the point of Jesus to save us from original sin that happened in Genesis?  Wasn't the reason Jesus was supposedly the savior because he filled the mesainic prophecies?  Doesn't Jesus claim that "not a jot or tittle" of the law should be changed?  Why does Jesus identify as a Jew if the old testament is irrelevant?   If he identifies as a jew then *he* has to accept the old testament, and if jesus accepts it, and jesus is god, isn't it true?  Why is Noah referenced by Peter, Luke, and Matthew?  Doesn't the bible say (timothy 3:16) that all scripture is divinely inspired by god?

The new testament doesn't work without the old one.  It just doesn't make sense.

And you keep saying "what you've been told".  Why are you basing your beliefs on what you've been told?  Read the books.  Read the defenses of it and the criticism of it.  Then decide.

As for parts of the new testament that don't conform to reality, we can start with virgins giving birth with no semen, the dead rising, and life beyond the death of the brain.

"The new testament doesn't work without the old one.  It just doesn't make sense."

It does for me, and not really sure what to say.. in the north we re pretty relaxed with christianity. It works that way basically for everyone in denmark.

I was never taught in school/or during confirmation about the old testiment, or any of that.

I was basically always just told the old testiment was like fevered dreams written down by old men, anything before the new testiment is just crap.

What matters is just what sense you make of jesus's teachings in the new testiment.

 

"Why are you basing your beliefs on what you've been told?  Read the books."

Because I honestly think the new testiment stands on its own, and everything else is a bullcrap. Why waste my time? most of us arnt all that heavly invested.

 

 

"As for parts of the new testament that don't conform to reality, we can start with virgins giving birth with no semen, the dead rising, and life beyond the death of the brain."

These are why people believe he was the son of god.

All we have to go on, is that the romans actually cursified someone named jesus.

And what people wrote down when they travelled with him / met him.