PS4 has sold through 35.9million units as of January 3rd!

[DonFerrari]

JRPGfan said:

DonFerrari said:

JRPGfan said:

DonFerrari said:
36M very good, how was PS2 in the same timeframe?

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/PlayStation_2

28.68 million.

So still 7.2M to spare =]

And about almost anyone wanting a PS4 already having bought one, it's possible that X1 won't get to 40M LT and WiiU won't pass 16M.

"PS4 haz no gamez!"

In 2016 thats no longer true..... theres plenty of people that want one that dont have one yet.

Id honestly be really surprised if the PS4 doesnt break 80m.

PS2 started slow... and just accelerated, its 3rd and 4th years where much stronger than its first and secound.

Unless the PS4 does the same, it ll drop off compaired to the PS2 at some point.

I still think it ll be ahead of the PS2, by next year as well, in the same time frame.

I really hope Sony are working hard at getting a die shrunk version of a PS4 out.

A slim version thats 50$ cheaper than whats on the market now, will give the PS4 the push it needs, to follow along the trajectory the ps2 did.

250 PS4 Slim 2016 Holidays would push great numbers.

Carl2291 said:

Teeqoz said:
Also 17.4 million PS+ subscribers

A more important, and more impressive number IMO.

Anyway, fantastic sales and even better tracking. Congrats to all involved.

For all the over/undertracking in slower months (like 2M off on a 5M period) to get this precise on the holidays is impressive, congratulations are very wellcome.

kowenicki said:

CGI-Quality said:

kowenicki said:

Brilliant figures. But that PS2 comparison is bogus to anyone with a brain.

PS4 wont pass PS2 lifetime.

The comparisons to PS2, the mere two posts that mention it, aren't bogus at all. One says that the PS4 is tracking ahead of the PS2 - true. The other asks what the PS2 was at in the same time frame. Not sure where the issue is.

OT: I'll be honest, I expected a teeny bit more (36.5m by Jan 3rd), but 35.9m is still fantastic (basically 36m)! 

Like I said... those comparisons are bogus.

Similar to the article that was once posted here, front page, to say PSV was ahead of PSP, bogus.

Apples and oranges and you know it... or you should.

So Being myself the person asking what were PS2 numbers after 2 years on the market I suppose I'm the guy without brain?

Apples and Oranges??? Please put your essay comparing them 1 to 1 if you like instead of just complaining about it and reshapping your comment. PS2 was also alone on the market on the launch and WW for several months while PS4 had Nintendo one year headstart and X1 launching together.

kowenicki said:

CGI-Quality said:

kowenicki said:

Like I said... those comparisons are bogus.

Similar to the article that was once posted here, front page, to say PSV was ahead of PSP, bogus.

Apoples and oranges and you know it... or you should.

"Anyone with a brain" - basically calling them stupid. Totally unnecessary.

As for the comparisons, nah, I still don't see what's bogus, no matter how many times you scream it. Despite the differences in launch territories, journalists compare them, Sony compares them, and gamers compare them. Looks like you'll remain one of the only ones to gripe about it.

Nope. Its clearly bogus to anyone with an analytical brain.

8 months less sales in the the entire world outside of Japan isnt that easily overlooked I'm afraid unless you have an agenda or simply like to wish upon a star.

Comparing 16 months of global plus 24 months of Japan sales with 24 months of global sales simply wont do.

I really dont give a rats arse what other people want to compare, to a true analyst, decent journalist or commentator the comparison would be bogus.

Not to denigrate the achievement, it is very very impressive, but its not on track for long term ps2 performance and its a world away from early years Wii performance. I don't know why you can't simply accept that wothout some defensive retort.... or you can tell me why my analysis is wrong.

How much have Japan contributed to PS2 and isn't to PS4? If you put region by region perhaps you wouldn't think the mere question about how much ahead PS4 still is (and losing ground) so offensive for you to call people no brain or at least no analytical brain.

kowenicki said:

CGI-Quality said:

kowenicki said:

Nope. Its clearly bogus to anyone with an analytical brain.

8 months less sales in the the entire world outside of Japan isnt that easily overlooked I'm afraid unless you have an agenda or simply like to wish upon a star.

Comparing 16 months of global plus 8 months of Japan sales with 24 months of truly global sales simply wont do.

I really dont give a rats arse what other people want to compare, to a true analyst, decent journalist or commentator the comparison would be bogus.

Not to denigrate the achievement, it is very very impressive, but its not on track for long term ps2 performance and its a world away from early years Wii performance. I don't know why you can't simply accept that wothout some defensive retort.... or you can tell me why my analysis is wrong.

Defensive retort? Your first post was aimed at attacking posters (which you've now "adjusted"). It's not a road you want to head down.

As for the rest of the post, I will continue to disagree. Comparing systems to historic data will always be fine in my book. There was only one poster in here that said the PS4 would overtake the PS2 and it certainly didn't require the noise you gave it.

I just prefer the truth and reality and facts that I see you aren't arguing with, because you cant, they are after all facts. You carry on though... its fine.

How about the 13 versus 31 facts that you abandoned and pretend you weren't completely wrong and them started using to justify X1 being behind and nowadays is totally forgot because X1 is losing by so big margins that it wouldn't matter if PS4 was selling in less countries than X1? How does your analytical brain revisit those numbers?

RolStoppable said:
Why again do I trust kowenicki in number matters?

PS2 data (production shipments) was 25 months for Japan and 18/17 months for America/Europe.
PS4 data (sell-through estimated by Sony) is 26 months for America/Europe and 23 months for Japan.

In my initial post in this thread I merely substracted three months from the global number to get the number for Japan (24-3=21). People, don't trust kowenicki.

Well I never did Rol, you are learning =p

So we are comparing shipments against sell throughs and a lot stronger japan to more spread launch, after 2 years things must start to normalize, right?