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I am so sick of people comparing Roku players to home console systems. I would put money on it that a very small percentage of people even buy these streaming devices to play games on. People buy these players for Netflix, Hulu, and other services. The only people buying Apple TV are the diehards that spent a shitload of money on itunes and see value in an overpriced Roku player. This is comparing apples to oranges.

Hell, at least Roku can actually make a Wiimote look a like. The controller Apple put out for the Apple TV looks like shit and doesn't even have a dpad.

Once again (like others have said in the thread) Microsoft is late to the party of streaming devices. They might as well call it the Zune 2 and force you to pay for a xbox live subscription to even watch Netflix on it.