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Bodhesatva said:
ckmlb said:
People who watch crappy movies carry the movie industry, should they get respect?

Same with people who listen to crap music.

Except the movies that are valuable have artistic merit. The "great games" you speak of do not, and usually have less maturity than the casual games. That's my problem. The "crappy movies" you talk about are things like Pirates of the Caribbean, and Blade, and Spawn, and Men in Black, and Independance Day, et. al. Correct? Then please notice this:

These are big budget movies with tons of action, usually a good deal of violence, and often a good deal of sex. They usually target 15-25 year old males first and foremost.

The "great games" you're talking about have tons of action, usually a good deal of violence, and often a good deal of sexuality. They usually target 15-25 year old males first and foremost.

It's games like Gears of War that are analogous to those "crappy movies."

The art house flicks are usually low budget, have little violence or action, and are enjoyed largely by adults.

The casual games are usually low budget, have little violence or action, and are enjoyed much more by adults than hardcore games.

It's the games like Wii Sports and The Sims that are analogous to art house flicks.

I've said this before, Ck, but you have it backwards. If you MUST make this analogy, it's God of War/Gears of War/Heavenly Sword that are equivalent to the crappy, blockbuster movies, and the casual games that are equivalent to art house flicks.

You generalize again as always that games are not mature and mini game collections are and there's no convincing you otherwise, because supposedly popping balloons on screen is the mature thing to do and fighting people on it isn't.

Also do you want me to go again into the artistic games debate: Ico, Shadow of the Colossus, Okami are games that are artistic. It's up to the people who make games to decide how artistic they make them.

Wii Play and this crap is equivilant to an art house flick in one way only: they are cheaply made by gaming and movie standards. Just cause these games are simple and made on the cheap doesn't make them art house flicks. If I went out now and taped a bunch of crap and then made it into a movie it wouldn't be artistic cause it's cheap...

Also if you think arthouse movies aren't violent and sexual then I dunno what you are talking about. Have you seen independent movies? they push those boundaries a lot more than the blockbusters that cater to the teen or M ratings.

Furthermore, you claim that supposedly these games are played by adults and you completely forget to mention that they are also played by children. Have you ever seen a little kid go watch and arthouse film? no, because it's boring to them.

Get over this nonsense about these games somehow being artistic and accept them for what they are: cheaply made simpler games that appeal to people who don't play games because they are simple and easy to manage without them necessarily having to invest time in them. These are even less artistic than Gears with its crappy story.  

 



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