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JinxRake said:
sc94597 said:

No you can play Wii games fine on Wii U - every single one. But if you also want to play any Gamecube game it literally is a five minute mod away. Nintendo didn't support GameCube games because initially they weren't interested in bringing the GC controller around, and backwards compatibility runs in Wii mode.  How many PS3 games can you play on PS4? 

As for your allusion to other media: 1. Video Games are not other media. They have different standards and expectations. If backwards compatibility is possible, then that is one of them. 2. Can you not play DVD's and CD's on your Bluray player? Can you not play downloaded media through usb/sd card on  your blu-ray player/sound system?

And nobody is saying give new content away for free. People are saying that they should support the originally purchased games. The PS4 CAN read PS2 discs. The PS4 CAN emulate PS2 games off the disc with the original content.  

It is the standard on PC, Wii U, and now even XBO to support backwards compatibility. Why shouldn't Sony do the same? 

 

Again...can I play XBox ORIGINAL games on the XBox One?

You've just said yourself that you need to MOD your Wii U to play games from two generations ago.

Video Games are MEDIA.

My MP3 player does not support my music CDs and nobody is gonna give me those songs again for free unless I pirate them.

 

BC is not something that's easily done at times. For the PS3 it's all the more a hassle because of its architecture. Tell me how that PS3 emulator is running at the moment on PCs.

Yes, they could emulate the PS2 and the PSOne. They are not, however, obligated to do so. Nobody ever is.

"I sold off my PS2 when I bought a PS3 and can't play my games on it anymore."

Uhhhh...why'd you sell your PS2 in the first place then?

"I don't want to log around hardware."

But you'd rather log around "all those games".

 

Seriously, some of the arguments of the thread make no sense to me.

Buuuhuuu, they're charging gamers to pay three times to play the same game.

However, who the bloody fuck buys a game three times? I got Crash Bandicoot 3 on the PS3/TV/Vita, only because my physical disc is too scratched to be played properly by my PSX.

Would I pay for it again on the PS4?

NO! I can already play it on three other systems, four even if I charge up the PSP.

My laptop does not have a DVD-Rom. Who will I go to strangle because I can't play Command and Conquer: Renegade now?

Ohhhh...it was my choice to buy a system that does not support physical media up to a point. Well, you see now, I am now not owed anything because I got a system that will not play something that I already own.

If there were large enough demand I am sure Microsoft would bring Xbox Original games. There isn't, and they chose to do the much harder task of bringing 360 games instead, because of higher demand. 

Yes, but Nintendo isn't providing a service that sells Gamecube games as a replacement. If they were committed to Gamecube BC they would just unlock Gamecube controller support in Wiimode the same way the mod works. Since people can already do it themselves, it isn't a big issue. 

I never said video games aren't media. I said they aren't OTHER media. 

It is perfectly legal per fair-use to rip the songs from the CD and put it on your mp3 player. But it is a silly discussion because an mp3 player ONLY plays digital media, and not discs. The PS4 supports the physical media via hardware. 

That is a ridiculous comparison, as nobody is talking about running PS3 games on the PS4, and Sony has already made an emulator in this situation. That is how these games work, via emulator. Sure there are specific tweaks in addition to the emulation, but the core of it is an emulator. 

They aren't obligated. But we are talking about appealing to consumers. Nobody is obligated to do anything, but they sure should if they want to keep in touch with the competition, and they don't want to come off as arrogant like they were at the start of the PS3 era. Anti-consumer policies are going to push consumers away, and not supporting games off the original discs because you want to make even more profits by manipulating people to rebuy their games - for some even a third time - is anti-consumer. 

Please get your quotations right. i never sold off any of my PS2's. They broke because they have shit lifespans, and the only one that is in half-working condition is a phat which I don't want to lug around. It isn't much of an issue because I can emulate my games on my PC. And overall this is not a personal issue, as like I said, I can emulate my games on PC. Nevertheless, I will call Sony out on anti-consumer practices. 

There can't be installs to the HDD? What technology prevents that? Who said I will be carrying my games with me at all times? I can't have three or four games that I am playing over a long period and then switch them when I go back home again? 

Like I said, consoles break. Sometimes buying the game again is the cheapest option. At the very least PS3 digital classics should had transferred to PS4 like Wii virtual console games transferred to Wii U. 

Fortunately in this circumstance the PS4 DOES have the hardware (and now the software) to play PS2 titles. Again, your comparison fails. 

Except it DOES support the media physically and now through software. The lack of support for games off the disc is an arbitrary decision by Sony. 

If Sony had the attitude of not providing services they don't owe their consumers, then they wouldn't be in first place right now in home consoles sales. That is the point of competition and appealing to consumers. The PS4 is such a success because Sony did a lot of what consumers wanted.