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midrange on 19 December 2015
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DivinePaladin said:
midrange said:
hershel_layton said:

Whoever still thinks Melee is better than SSB4 is really just using nostalgia.

Smash Bros 4 has better looks(Melee looks outdated), a way better roster, amazing music, way more stages, 8 PLAYER Mode, more controllers to use, Amiibo support(cool thing to use), 3DS-controller capability(win for me), and an online mode(which melee doesn't have)

 

I love all the Smash games, but I just think that Sakurai did extremely well with Melee. He basically improved upon brawl and melee, and made a game that can be played for ages.

@bolded: Apparently people can't have opinions without it being "nostalgia."

clearly SSB4 has the EXACT same physics as melee. I love being able to edge hog and wave dash in SSB4. I love being able to play on  pokemon stadium and great bay on SSB4.

you can like smash 4 better, but don't expect people to like it as much as you do.

I don't know of too many people who picked up Melee in the modern day and prefer it to 4, so nostalgia is clearly a factor. It's a tough sell to say nostalgia doesn't factor in when the players arguing that almost exclusively started it in the GC era. If this was a game people were still taking up and starting today, like an Ocarina or the like, then yeah I could see your point, but the only people shouting about how Melee is superior are the guys who picked it up first. 

Melee is still a great game, no doubt about it, but you're setting up a pretty bad strawman by going right to sarcastically discussing physics and it doesn't make your point stronger compared to what layton was saying. Everybody is always going to have preferences, but as you yourself said, don't expect everybody to like Melee as much as you do, especially not with another game taking the spotlight away. 

No ... just no. Nostalgia is not always a factor. You claim that a game having different physics is not enough to like it over a different one? What kind of logic is that? I (like many others) like fast paced fighting games. The fact that melee has a faster play style over the newer one is enough to like it over the newer one.

If this was a game people were still taking up and starting today, then yeah I could see your point

Let's assume I agree with this claim (I don't btw, popularity has nothing to do with people's opinions), how do you know people aren't picking up melee today? How do you know people aren't getting into the game now because they took an interest in the competitive scene? For all we know, melee could be started by just as many people as those starting ocarina of time.

Don't assume you know how everyone thinks or how their opinions work. I'm not saying everyone will like melee better (that's fine personal preference and all), but you guys are saying that everyone who likes melee likes it because of nostalgia (utterly false, there are many distinguishing factors such as stage preference, speed, and mechanics that come into play)