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hershel_layton said:
naruball said:

You must have missed all the insults directed at the author of the list or anyone who agrees with him. Apparently they are virgins (as if being a virgin is a bad thing) among other lovely adjectives they used against them.

I don't see why being a virgin is so bad. At least you won't have to worry about STDs.

You cand get them in Forms you had no guilty at all... the only bad part about being a virgin is not having enjoyed sex, but that is a personal decision so use it as insult is moronic.

SvennoJ said:
DonFerrari said:
 

The lack of genetic capability was Eneas Carneiro talking about LULA not Dilma. Eneas is dead for quite some years now,

And from all the text you sent it would make more sense for women to be natural leaders, strange enough they aren't and in workplace they tend to fight a lot among them, make small groups, sabotage one another and despise women that are their bosses.

Ah, my apologies. Still weird to blame it on genetics, anyway nm.

I haven't noticed the stereo typical cat fighting myself, yet in sofware development women were (are) very much in the minority. They had 1 big advantage, never have to wait for the bathroom. Upside down world.

Yet what makes the women in that article unnatural leaders. How can they be effective in cool-power leadership if women only sabotage and despise their bosses? You do have a point, yet it's not that big of a deal:
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/01/why-dont-more-women-want-to-work-with-other-women/283216/

Social scientists who have been poking at this can of worms for decades have found that women sometimes exclude other women from opportunities in order to gain a competitive edge. Women tend to mainly only bully other women in the workplace, while men are equal-opportunity harassers. 

Much of this can be chalked up to decades of workplace and societal gender discrimination. Women tend to face the so-called "backlash effect," the theory that women can only advance at work if they act more like men, but they then face social penalties for behaving in unfeminine ways.

But perhaps the statistic to focus on isn't the quarter of workers who care about the gender of their colleagues. It's the 77 percent of workers who say they don't care. More of that, and we won't have to worry about boy's clubs or glass ceilings.

Eneas was just being "polite" with the insult. Lula was proud to not being able to read or write, didn't graduate and several things that would make him an undesirable leader for any company. And as president he made a lot of goofs (but was a good mediator, unfortunately mostly for his and his party interests). So Eneas instead of calling him dumb or not prepared said that he lacked genetics traits (ie. low IQ). Was a curveball that Lulla seems to not have understood even like 9 years after it was said.

Call it empiric and dismiss it but most of the women I know don't like to have female leaders (and perhaps is because those leaders are a lot less gentle, because men are taught to be gentler to women, or just jealously and women competition) even if they like to have female coworkers... and your study could either summary on "let's not worry about it because 78% of men don't care and 76% of women also don't" or " why 30% less woman want to work with another woman (5/7) and 25% more with man (18/14)  while being less indiferent to gender". And show that perhaps female have more prejudice agaisnt themselves or are more sexist... But I agree with you that internally in the company that can be worked to be better.

Engineering and likely careers are very women lacking (and we saw already on the last discussion of the subject diverse reasons) so it's hard to judge from POV it happening, I also haven't saw the fighting, just reports of sabotage... probably in call center and other areas it may happen more commonly.

The only problem I have with what you posted is that yet again it tries to push blame to the system again. As I put before, when it's bad for women in some way it was fault of the system and must be destroyed, and if it was good for woman or bad for men that should be pushed  higher.

Women really are more no to be community leaders or at least articulators and flowing within the group. But their effectiveness and company value is still unproved don't you thinl?

naruball said:
hershel_layton said:

I don't see why being a virgin is so bad. At least you won't have to worry about STDs.

Agreed. It's just one of those insults that cool kids like to throw around. It's like telling someone to "suck a dick". What if that person (guy or girl) actually likes sucking dicks?

Also, many women play the victim card complaining that society is unfair and criticizes them for having multiple sex partners (whenever a friend makes fun of a woman for doing so I always tell them off), while ignoring the fact that men are also considered less attractive, though if they've never had sex before. While women have been fighting against this, men, instead of following the example of some women by doing whatever the fuck they want, are pressured into having sex with any girl just so they don't look bad or considered less of a man by both men and women. Having sex seemingly becomes their only purpose in life and the only topic of discussion.

As I said before, I have nothing against feminists, but it's time for men to wake up and fight for true equality.

Never had any trouble with people calling me virgin, being one or not =]

And yes, feminazism bother me, but I like my life, being a man, love my wife and etc, so I don't fell the urge to either fight them or complain about how hard it's for me.



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