| midrange said: There exist sub genres. Smash is an party brawler that exists within the fighting game genre. Your MK8 comparison is off. MK8 is an arcade racer, so it is pointless to compare it to a racing sim, but since racing sim and arcade racer are sub genres of racing, it is perfectly valid to say MK8 is a racing game. |
| mZuzek said: Bold breaks your point. You're contradicting yourself. Saying Smash is a fighting game isn't at all like saying MK8 is a racing sim, because racing sim is a subgenre of the racing genre, much like Smash is, I suppose, a "party brawler", a subgenre of the fighting game. This is so stupid I don't even know why you bother going off-topic to write this much about. Smash is a game about fighting. You fight with several different characters, on several different stages, even on several different modes - but what you're doing, in any game mode, is always fighting. That's just how the game is supposed to be. Look wherever you want, it will always be defined as a fighting game. A fighting game is a game where characters fight, not specifically a side-scrolling game with health bars, rounds, and flat stages only. If anything, please try to prove your point to everyone that slaps "Fighting" as the genre Smash belongs to, and everyone that includes it in major fighting game tournaments. |
The bold breaks your point. You're flat out incorrect. A fighting game is not a game "where characters fight." Pokemon fight. Not a fighting game. Dante in DMC fights. Not a fighting game. The Links in Triforce Heroes fight. Not a fighting game. Characters in Dinasty Warriors fight. Not a fighting game. Dante in DMC fights. not a fighting game. The idea that the definition of a genre is a loose as players doing what the word in the name of the genre describes is absolutely absurd. Sonic Lost World isn't suddently a racing game because there is a mode where you can race in it. That doesn't make it a subgenre in the racing genre.
Same goes for Smash. Party Brawler isn't a subgenre of the fighting genre, just like the JRPG isn't a subgenre of fighting games now because Pokemon has been in fighting game tournaments. 3d fighters like Tekken and Soul Calibur are a subgenre of the fighting game genre, not Smash. Smash is a party brawler - a completely different genre. Smash has been in fighting tournaments because it's a popular game who's audience type can overlap with that scene in a fighting game tournament. That's it. It's proof of nothing more than popularity.
And it has absolutely never been truly defined as a fighting game. That's why people like you get so upset about it. The consensus isn't there because it doesn't exist. Not by me, not by the creator of the franchise, not by nearly enough people for the sentence "Smash is not a fighting game" to not be one of the most recognizable sentences in the gaming industry. There's nothing to prove. If anything, it's a subgenre of platformer. It is absolutely and most definitely not a subgenre of fighting game.
