o_O.Q said:
"I feel a lot of the hate women receive from us men in regards to this "feminism" movement is bullshit and unfair."
most of the "hate" or better worded criticism i see is directed towards stupid ideas like equality of outcomes not towards women as a group... sure there are men who because of interactions with women become jaded as a result and start hating women ... sure that exists but that has existed for eons and it exists on the female side as well
"Every man in here saying "men are the real victims of gender inequality"" yes i agree that any man who says this is delusional... what i would say is the genders are and will always be unequal and as a result experience certain advantages and disadvantages
" just check your nearest search engine for any pornography and you'll see the content is geared towards us men" for obvious reasons - products are always tailored towards whichever group consumes the product most
" if patriarchy is destroyed it actually HELPS men more than it helps women. Men will no longer have to always fit the "male patriarical role""
the ideals that men try to live up to - tall, muscular, wealthy etc have nothing to do with this great boogieman "patriarchy" that you speak of men try to live up to these ideals because they understand from an early age just as women do what the other gender finds attractive... you really believe that if society changes that women will stop prefering men with certain traits over others? as a man you will always be expected to fit a particular standard if you want a mate... that is not going to change... sure men that do not fit these traits find mates obvious but the point is that these traits are understood to be most desirable
"We created patriarchy so how can we be mad as men that a system that we created is biting us in the butt? " ? i don't ever remember drawing up plans for something called patriarchy? when was the last meeting where we discussed this?
"Women historically have been treated like TRASH"
and this is an interesting claim right here because i could just as easily claim based on hardships that were faced primarily by men, that men were also treated like trash in the past |
Patriarchy basically is a man at the head of the houshold who "Works, Pays for everything, Protects his wife, Protects his children, Takes a bullet for his wife, Takes a bullet for his children and is seen as strong and fearless."
Patriarchy basically only gave these role to women, be pretty, stay at home, take care of the kids, cook, clean and be helpless in the face of danger until a man does everything for you.
What are qualities that men can attain in their lifetime to show women that they are "Strong" "Financially Stable" "Fearless" "Courageous" and other qualities that are seen as coveted in patriarchy?
Muscles, Height, Financial Wealth, Alpha Male Personality.
What are the qualities that women can attain in their lifetime to show men that they are "pretty" "feminine" "Motherly" "Domesticated"?
Dressing like a classy woman, Being clean, Being pretty, not being loud and argumentative.
Patriarchy has been responsible for a lot of this. Just look at how since feminism has been coming along a lot of men aren't alpha males anymore because they aren't forced to be like they were in say the 1940's.
We can respectfully agree to disagree but I honestly think destroying patriarchy is more beneficial to us males. You have males committing suicide because they aren't able to meet the requirements of a male in the "patriarchy system".
