SvennoJ said:
sc94597 said:
SvennoJ said:
sc94597 said:
SvennoJ said:
Nocturne123 said:
Or you could, you know, pay for them and support Sony so they can put that money into the PS4 infrastructure and it's games. |
That's a strange concept. But yes, I rather buy Burnout again then mess with an emulator and show that there is still enough interest in the series to spend money on. It's all convenience in the end which is worth a bit of money to me. Time > money.
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Honestly the time I spend tweaking settings for a specific game I rip off a disc is about 10-15 minutes (including ripping the iso.) That is less than the download time for the PS2 game from Sony servers would take. I'd argue that if you already own the game, it is more time-efficient than downloading the title again. Especially for larger PS2 games that used multiple discs.
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Out of the interest of curiosity I gave the download a try. However 5 minutes later I'm stumped...
PSCX2 requires a legal copy of the PS2 BIOS to run games.
You cannot use a copy obtained from a friend or the internet.
You must dump the BIOS from your *own* Playstation 2 console.
How do I do that? Is that even legal?
How do I connect my ps2 console to my pc to dump the bios?
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If you care about everything being "legal" and not everything being "ethical" or "moral" then here is how you can extract a bios.
http://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-Guide-to-Dumping-Your-PS2-Bios-over-LAN
Nevertheless, if you already had a PS2 I really don't see the big deal of using another PS2's bios unless you are obsessed with the legality of things. There is a good argument against the piracy of games (i.e you are hurting the developer by doing so), but since Sony isn't selling Playstation bios', unless you only care about intellectual property abstractly and are obsessed with following the law, it isn't an issue to find one and download it, unlike finding games that are being sold legally.
Edit: Yes, you can use a copy obtained from the internet. PSCX2 just can't say that you can for legal reasons.
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Both are free and legal—none of the code in the emulators themselves belongs to Sony
While that is technically true, you have to mod chip / jail break your ps2 to get the bios to be able to use the emulator.
Sony doesn't sell the BIOS nor made it available for use on anything besides the ps2, therefore pscx2 is in a gray area when it comes to legality.
Anyway I'm not going to download the bios from a dodgy site, nor am I going to jailbreak my ps2. So pointless download.
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It is legal to use a bios you have extracted, just as it is legal to use a rom/iso you have extracted. That isn't legally grey except in countries that don't follow this policy. In the U.S - at least - it is legal. For this reason, Sony hasn't ordered the emulator to be taken down. That isn't grey at all. It is illegal to use a bios that you have not extracted, just as it is illegal to use a rom you have not extracted. Ethically, however, it doesn't bother me to use a bios that has not been extracted by myself, but it does bother me to pirate games without a justified reason (i.e wasn't localized, not in print/purchasable,etc, etc.) I bought a PS2, I bought all of my games. Sony can't ask for much more than that.
There are so many non "dodgy" sites where you can get a bios, and it literally takes seconds. If the overwhelming majority of other users can do this with no problem, I really can't see your irrational fear as legitimate. Nevertheless, for most people you must realize this isn't an issue. If it is for you, so be it. Your values are prioritized quite differently.
