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pokoko on 10 December 2015
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Shadow1980 said:
pokoko said:

And there is the problem.  That list is awful but there are many legitimate issues of inequality towards men and boys that should be recognized and discussed but are instead shoved aside because of the "uh but men had it better for a long time" attitudes.  It's sad and ridiculous and it's making things worse rather than better but still we get the same old excuses.  Boys are doing worse in English than girls in Math?  Who cares about the damage to society now because men had it better in the past.  A 17 year old boy gets a much harsher penalty than a 17 year old girl for the same crime?  He should be thankful for the the chance to be treated unfairly.

Rather than deal with all the problems, why is it that we're just supposed to deal with some of them and call it even?  I will never, ever understand that mentality.

There are some instances of gender disparities negatively affecting men more so than women, and they do deserve attention regardless of the fact that males utterly dominated Western society until very recently. Men do tend to get longer/harsher sentences than women for the same crime, and that's not right. But is that part of a systemic and proactive anti-male bias in the justice system, or is there something else more prosaic at work? A commenter on an article about this subject had this to say:

I read all of that, though I'm not sure what most of it had to do with what I said.  Videogames are a lesser issue by far.  Honestly, though, I don't really understand the purpose of those old rationalizations and excuses and why they are applied with such an obvious double standard.  Inequality that favors men?  Evil patriarchy's fault and it needs to be changed.  Inequality that favors women?  Well, that's a result of patriarchy, so it's okay, no reason to do anything about it.  It's always the same.  Marginalize, brush aside, disparage, blame the victim in the most sideways way possible, trot the justifications out, and then one day, when its a full-blown problem, ask why something wasn't done sooner.  

Why is one set of problems considered and discussed but the other is met with terms like "manosphere" (I don't even know what that is)?  Why can't both be addressed?  Why the rush to discredit anything that might affect men or boys in a negative way?  Why short-change the future because of the past?  The truth is, I suppose, that people really aren't thinking about improving society for everyone, they just want to further the cause they've hooked on with, which often includes a free set of blinders.