My firs time playing a Fallout game and...

[DivinePaladin]

HoloDust said:

Stefan.De.Machtige said:

Versus_Evil said:
Yeah, Bethesdas Fallouts are terrible compared to Black Iles, you should really check them out. Bethesda practically ruined the Fallout franchise. Fallout4 might just be the biggest let down this gen for me.

It's not that they're terrible. The Genre has changed that's all.

They're not terrible games, they're just pretty terrible Fallout games - well, at least FO4 is terrible, FO3 is about what Alien 3 is to Alien and Aliens, not terrible, but not really good. Bethesda just never quite figured out what Fallout in its core is about, or if they did, they didn't really care much.

I'd argue the opposite. Fallout 4, as much as it's changed the gameplay compared to previous games, is more Fallout than 3 was. 3 gets a lot of love because of nostalgia but it was a god awful Fallout. I'll name one example of many: BoS. 4 is much less an RPG and I have some big problems with that at times but as a whole it's a much better game. The world feels more cohesive here to me, the sidequests are fun and there are more than a small few of them, et alia. The story is about as bad overall but I genuinely like the fact that I've been conflicted with which side to choose, even if that's because it's bad. 

 

It's firmly between 3 and NV for me in terms of my opinion; NV was exactly what Fallout would be nowadays while being a good modern game, and it will be hard to pass it in my eyes. I like some changes (Karma needed to go) but I miss some key things Obsidian did with NV (a trackable Reputation meter for all the areas would be lovely). The DLC will decide it for me but NV is such a high standard. 3's still fun too, don't get me wrong - I've put 500 hours into it, but I couldn't go back after NV.