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HoloDust on 06 December 2015
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JEMC said:
HoloDust said:

Hm, Bethesda level of comercial success...Bethesda deliberately dumbed down their IPs to get there...their fall (in RPG terms) from Morrowind to Skyrim is pretty much the same as their rise in popularity with mainstream audience - not so sure CDPR are willing to do that to the same degree.

But even if they go that way (hopefuly that will never happen, the last thing c/W/RPG fans need is another dev going full retard), 2077 setting alone is a big obstacle for Bethesda level of comercial success - cyberpunk is quite niche genre after all.

But if they use Witcher 3 engine and make another Sword & Sorcery setting that is bit less story oriented and bit more 'make your own hero', I can completely see that game getting the sales they aim for.

From their words, it's obvious that they want Bethesda levels of success or more, but that doesn't mean that they have to make the same mistakes of Bethesda. Just because that was the only way Bethesda found to reach success, it doesn't mean that they can't find another way to get there.

And while cyberpunk is a niche genre, that has nothing to do with the game sales. Sword & Sorcery settings aren't popular either and that hasn't stopped the Elder Scrolls or The Witcher games to sell well. It's how you tell the story or, in this case, how you make the game, that will decide the future of it.

But despite all that, the reason I'm curious and excited for Cyberpunk 2077 is because CD Projekt can't reskin The Witcher 3, but have to make a completely new game with new gameplay (because guns vs swords), and I want to see how they manage to do that.

Yeah, that's the thing, I kinda think they need to go Bethesda way if they want similar level of success - I think core WRPG can sell some 5-6 mil copies at best, and even that is with a lot of hype - Bethesda sales keep rising due to them giving up more of a classic RPG experience with every new game to attract even more mainstream audience.

As for S&S setting, when it comes to c/W/RPGs, there isn't really any other setting even remotely as popular as that one, so cyberpunk is quite niche compared to it.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to 2077, I'm also curious to see how they'll handle it - honestly, I'm cautiously optimistic, I think CDPR still have lot of integrity, but while I liked Witcher 3, I felt that Witcher 2 was much better game, and that some of design choices were made due to things I've mentioned above.