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Swordmasterman on 06 December 2015
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Snoopy said:
aLkaLiNE said:

I'll give them credit for achievements, and introducing the first hard drives to home console. That's about it. Online gaming was also on PS2, was free, and with the way that internet was developing at the time, there's absolutely no chance that online gaming wouldn't have been a big part of the 7th gen. So to that end, on the online multiplayer front, MS made popular charging for an online subscription.  Again that's not a benefit.  They put behind this gold paywall Netflix originally. That's not a benefit, that's basically saying that you have to pay us in order to access this other content that also requires a monthly fee.  Nothing about that is revolutionary. Nada. Zilch. And multimedia features? What do you mean? The PS3 came out the box with media support for pretty much everything and could be turned into a full on Linux based PC. MS did -not- make multi media popular on consoles, they were just riding that wave.  Which was also something that was bound to happen, case in point being the software features available on the PS1, further expanded upon on the PS2 and completely realized on the PS3.

New and exciting UI overhauls? I feel like that's a stretch.  Many people preferred the old 360's blade UI over the NXE. I remember that.  I also know that up until recently, the X1's UI has been a sloppy and sluggish mess - designed by a through and through software company! It's borderline hilarious honestly. That should have been sorted out WELL before launch, not two years after.  And my dude, all that cloud PR talk has been smoke blown up your ass. That talk dates back over two years now and there's still nothing to show for it. Ironically speaking it's actually Sony that is using cloud based technology to allow people to stream full fledged PS3 titles to TVs without the need for a console.  What is MS using the cloud for so far? How have they pioneered or innovated on that front? I'm pretty sure the 'cloud' is just PR speak for dedicated servers lol. Nothing crazy there.
On one last note, MS has never played by anyones rules but their own. That is EXACTLY why they're in the situation they're in in regards to a declining userbase, in regards to lagging 3rd party support, in regards to lagging 1st party support, consumer base retention. This is, 100% on them and the strategy they've employed. If anything Sonys starting to play more by MS rules, not the inverse dude. Timed exclusivity, moneyhatting, paywalls, these are ripped straight out of MS playbook and now Sonys doing all that better. I don't agree with it but it no longer affects me because my console of choice now participates in all that shadyness.

 


1. Please watch crackdown 3 then come back to me.

2. What declining user base? Xbox hasn't been as popular before. Third party support is still huge. The only third party games Microsoft will be missing out on is what sony/nintendo buys or some niche Japanese  game that may not even be localized which usually doesn't even sell well or score well.

3.Sony had to do third party marketing deals because their first party is making vr crap or indies. These type of things only help out in the short run, but not the long run. The paywall is probably something Sony wanted to do with the PS3, but couldn't get away with it at the time. They probably lost money running all those servers.

Microsoft only went full out for third party games during the 360 era to let people know playstation isn't the only place to play it. Very important for their brand. Now they're building an army of huge AAA exclusives.

You are Biased ?, First that Crackdown 3, is not coming anytime Soon, While Streaming Playstation Games are a Real Thing for over 1 Year.

Ace Combat, Street Fighter, Dead or Alive, Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, Resident Evil, Nearly All Capcom's Franchises, Nearly All Bandai Namco Games, A lot of Sega's Games,  and a Lot of other Japanese Games that does not show up in the Xbox Console, Some of this Games as you say are "Niche" they Sell More than Forza 6, i think that Even Dragon Quest Heros, sold more in USA, on Launch,  than Forza 6, Did in his week of Launch Globally.

 

and a Last Thing, the Xbox One, is Selling Less than Xbox 360 Did, even with Better Launch the Xbox One, is Selling Nearly the Same or Even Worse than Xbox 360 Did, they Stop to compare it because they would Begin to Lose even for the Xbox 360, the sales are Slowing down and there is Nothing in the Horizon to Save Microsoft, for Example Why do you Think they dont Release Numbers of Consoles Sold ? is Because the Numbers are Worse than the Xbox 360's Numbers.

 

Until June, or Juny, of this year they said that the Xbox One, was Selling Faster than Xbox 360, in the Same time or in comparison Between the Sames months in the same Time-Line, But after that they Stopped to Claim that they are Selling more than Xbox 360, and do you Know Why ?, is Why in 2 Years of Console, in Xbox 360's Life Cicle they Released a Huge Tittle That Sold  a Lot of Consoles, was released in September 2007, Halo 3, they Sold more than 4.3 Millions of Halo 3, Copies in just 1 Week, and they Finished the Life-Cicle of this game with Over 15 Millions of Units Sold.

 

Halo 5, in Comparison only Had less than 1.5-1.7 Millions Sold in the First Week, they Mixed The Numbers to Hide it, and even Now i think that he did not Surpassed 2 Millions of Units Sold, maybe with Blackfriday he did it, Because of that i think Xbox One, is beggining to Sell even Less than Xbox 360, is because Xbox 360, in the same time had a Mind Blowing Title like Halo 3, and now  Halo 5, Is not  even more than Twice, the Sales of Uncharted Remaster.