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tiffac said:

How can you claim a group of islands that no one lives there? And they took areas that's not even part of the contested areas!

So your saying the UN law is meaningless and a claim of China should be enforced that destroys the soveriegnty of other nations?

The hypothesis means nothing in this case because what China took is not within the 200 nuatical miles of their country. Do not change the subject.

And btw China is harassing the fishermen of other countries who's ancestry has fished and lived there far longer than the claim of the 9 dash line. That is the problem. Denying a soveriegn country's right to fish and gather resources from their own waters is a violation of internal law.

There is no going around about that.

If China had every right to claim the entire South China Sea then they would not be afraid to go to the arbitration but they choose not to do so.

This is what I mean by China getting a free pass. They break international law but they are still in the right for a claim that no one but themselves accepts to be true.

The UNCLOS agreement DID NOT apply before 1994 November 16, period! China still owns the land that they reclaimed but as for who owns the overlapping waters that is still disputed therefore the UNCLOS does not apply in this case ... 

China's neighbors should probably negotiate what part of the sea they own instead of depending on a flawed international law to give them their waters ...

Anyways let's drop this or you can maybe put another thread since this is a little off-topic ...