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Well 2010 could be possible. MS will defiantly release first. There 6 bln loss up until now is nothing compared to what they earn with windows. At this moment PS2 isn't stealing sales from PS3 (target group is way different). The same can be applied for 360 and 720. Why wouldn't they take advantage of releasing first. The have enough money, and should still support 360 with games (those might also be downloadable for 720).