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Diablos said:
poklane said:

You clearly don't seem to be aware about what kind of alliance NATO is. NATO is a defensive alliance, not offensive. Sure, NATO countries can take on offensive measures if needed, but is in no way an offensive military alliance. Also, NATO didn't have any mutual defense treaties with Ukraine, something which you seem to have completely made up. Attacking NATO equals suicide, just admit it. NATO members could go as far as to start a genocide against Russians in former Russia occupied territories and Russia wouldn't do shit. Why? It's suicide.

Never said Ukraine was nato so stop making stuff up, they had signed a treatie and had sovereigntie guarentees for giving up their nukes.   Signiture on a paper means nothing.

Russia can nuke the whole world out of existance, nato nor anybody is doing shit to them.  Why its suicide.

No one is dying or starting a war over a few downed turkish airplanes. 

You're saying nobody will start a war over attacking the biggest defensive military alliance in history, yet you say and are hoping Russia might start a war over a single jet which was shot down due to their fault. Do you realize how stupid the shit you're saying right now is?

And like you said: Russia using nukes would nuke the world out of existance, which is suicide. If you and I were having a fist fight, would you fight with me until one of us surrenders or would you kill me knowing that if you kill me you'd also die? You'd probably fight me until one of us surrenders, just like Russia would fight a NATO-Russian war until one surrenders or goes for the diplomatic solution.