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ganoncrotch said:
o_O.Q said:


yes because if you don't throw your life away for lies ( which is what most recent wars are based on btw ) then your life isn't worth living lol

with regards to women if the only reason your woman is with you is because she knows you will do all of the work and make all of the sacrifices then i must say that i do not envy you

i personally think that there's more to life than being a puppet 

that you actually seem to take pride in this is funny


Some valid enough points, the weird thing through this whole thread tho is that every "real" man who would demand to die in the position of their partners, I wonder have they ever stopped to consider asking their partner what they would want, like if roles were reversed and your wife said that you had to mind the child and she would die because of her gender, leaving you with no say in the matter just because of gender but not how much she loves you. I don't believe I could so quickly decide for my partner that I was going to martyr myself for her just because of gender, could do it out of love... but based on gender? nothing to do with it. Nor would I have issue with her offering her place on a life raft for someone she loved (mother/father etc.) because she wanted them to live on more.

As much as letting the elderly die because they have less years to live remaining is true... what ever happened to respecting your elders?


the thing is that it seems like what a "real" man and "real" woman should be are determined by what women and men want in partners generally

this is to some extent what causes gender equality and as a result women are casting off their gender roles and being emancipated and i have no problem with that

men should also be changing to adapt to these changes not ignorantly clinging to old customs that no longer apply in the current climate

and yeah respect for elders is a good tradition but a fading one apparently