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g911turbo said:

 

First of all, thank you all for the replies.

 

I think I've narrowed it down to a budget of 400 or less because he is just too rough with his stuff.  laptop was bought christmas of 2012.  Before the mobo went on the ASUS, I had to replace the screen once and keyboard twice.  Case screws, by the end, were ripping through the plastic, causing the case to split a little everytime he opened the laptop (hinge metal popping up on upper plastic)... i actually wonder if this caused flexing and death of the mobo.  That, and the A8-4500m always ran pretty hot...

He wants an alienware because it lights up different colors, etc.  They start around 400 used for something decent... but I figured that $230 model would get the job done (tougher plastic too most likely) for another few years and him showing more responsiblity.  Make sense?

Alienware PCs build quality is not very good imo. If you want a "tough" PC I would go with Lenovo.