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Soleron said:
Why have you talked yourself into "3 year old budget PC" and "used Alienware" as the only options here?

First of all, thank you all for the replies.

 

I think I've narrowed it down to a budget of 400 or less because he is just too rough with his stuff.  laptop was bought christmas of 2012.  Before the mobo went on the ASUS, I had to replace the screen once and keyboard twice.  Case screws, by the end, were ripping through the plastic, causing the case to split a little everytime he opened the laptop (hinge metal popping up on upper plastic)... i actually wonder if this caused flexing and death of the mobo.  That, and the A8-4500m always ran pretty hot...

He wants an alienware because it lights up different colors, etc.  They start around 400 used for something decent... but I figured that $230 model would get the job done (tougher plastic too most likely) for another few years and him showing more responsiblity.  Make sense?