| hunter_alien said: Yeah, and with this configuration you will need an upgrade for all the latest PC games in a year. |
No you won't.
In-fact most of the components in that PC is already technically several years old anyway.
The AMD FX 6300 was released 3 years ago, based on a CPU family released 4 years ago.
Considering my Q6600 and Q9200 CPU's I have laying around are still capable of gaming even almost 8 years after release... These FX chips still have a few years of life left in them.
The Radeon R9 380 is a re-badged Radeon R9 290 an evolutionary step-up from the Radeon 7970 released 3 years ago, it is a card that handles gaming at 1440P and 1600P really well, 1080P will be a cake walk for it for a few more years yet.
| sc94597 said: For many people, it is very easy to find a cheap WIndows 7 key (as cheap as $20-30) and upgrade to Windows 10. |
Or free. You can go to a computer recyclers grab a Windows 7 key off an old OEM box, call up Microsoft, they will unlock it... Then make the free upgrade to Windows 10.
zero129 said:
Is this a joke?, exactly how is it click bait?. Like others have said hook it up to your tv, also you can use steamos or linux for free or give an extra 20-30 euros for a windows license. |
I find people dislike Apples to Apple's comparisons.
| Tachikoma said: SteamOS, problem solved. |
Unfortunatly you still require Windows if you wish to take advantage of the largest games library on the planet.
| LurkerJ said: "CPU and GPU are miles ahead of what's in the consoles" That doesn't mean you will get to play every game released on the PS4 for said PC years down the line. Optimization is key. We know by know that a lot publishers just don't put much effort into porting their games. |
Pretty much all ports run and look better on PC.
Everything from Battlefield to Fallout 4, the PC can have just the "notch" higher in terms of fidelity. That isn't free.
PC is also on a quest for console-like optimizations... nVidia and AMD are investing allot of money and man-hours to improve efficiency at the driver level.
Microsoft with Direct X 12, AMD with Mantle, Vulkan greatly improve efficiency at the API level, Windows 10 brings with it a slew of efficiency improvements.
Developers are also taking note and are being a little less sloppy these days, it also helps that the PC isn't ahead by several generations in terms of graphics feature sets which makes life a little easier, everything can get utilized now.
| hunter_alien said:
We had this discussion several times before and Im getting sick and tired of being called out, just because you do not like where I stand and that I do not neceseraly like where the PC industry is at the moment and where it is headed. |
What you believe is irrellevant. If you do not wish to be called out on something, then don't say it to begin with.
You do not need to upgrade your PC to play the latest games on a yearly cadence, especially for the cake-walk 1080P resolution.
| yoscrafty said: Question; how important is the CPU cooler in this one (or any rig)? Doesn't the CPU you buy come with its own cooler/fan? |
Yes.
AMD's coolers are typically fairly horrible though, very noisy.
| hunter_alien said: Yes they do, to bad that only 1/5th of PC developers know or are willing to put some effort behind optimization. As someone who has worked as a gaming QA for an outsource company, believe me, rushing in some fixes 3 weeks before launch, is far from enough. |
Rubbish.
What makes you think a Developer needs to do mich if any optimizations to begin with?
Most developers utilize a game engine that is already optimized for various platforms and it's API's and hardware.
Pretty much every EA game will use Frostbite which runs, plays and looks better on PC.
Cry Engine, Unreal, Gamebryo... You name it, are all PC optimized and perform great.
| hunter_alien said:
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Rubbish. This proves you don't know what you are talking about.
The only time a stock cooler is going to be insufficient is with heavy overclocking. The stock coolers can even tolerate moderate overclocks just fine.
And at stock are more than sufficient.
| hunter_alien said:
Also, I wonder, how many PC gamers actually payed less then 200$ for their monitors? I know I payed almost 300, and I can say that the quality is pretty much OK, but you can easily go far higher. Oh, and what about a mouse or keyboard? How many of them play on sub 20$ mouse? I doubt that many... |
I paid $700 for mine. But I also got three of them for triple monitor 1440P gaming.
I have a $10 cheap keyboard and mouse from Kmart, does the job.
| pokoko said: I'm sure I'll get another PC within the next couple of years, though, or maybe even the next time I see a great deal. Right now, I'm struggling between processors. AMD 8300 series or should I pay the extra for an i5? Do I need an i5? I don't care at all about Ultra settings, by the way. I just want stable frames per second. |
I would do neither.
I would overclock that Phenom. Get a decent cooler, Overclock the NB clock by about 15% (Which starts to push your chip towards Nahelem levels of performance.) Then overclock that CPU to 4Ghz. (Most can achieve this with 1.38 - 1.45v)
Or get a second hand Phenom 2 x6 off ebay for cheap and overclock that.
That should then tie you over untill Zen is released or Intel's next gen.
Otherwise, mid-range i5 should be sufficient.
Plus DDR4 is something I would wait for in the mainstream before upgrading.
sc94597 said:
Here is a video of somebody playing it with those specs.http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_9QtZfImnsY |
The big difference between AMD and Intel is minimum framerates. I have both platforms, whilst AMD is more than sufficient... For most games. It falls flat on it's face for demanding lightly-threaded games.
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