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jlmurph2 said:
CosmicSex said:

Do you mean like Fallout 4?  Well, I think that the problem with that game is that its using a last gen engine period that hasn't been updated in quite some time.  Still, looking at Fallout's sales, you have to wonder if they felt the need to spend the money?

Not really Fallout 4 because those kinds of things are expected from Bethesda with the scope and density of their games.

I mean in games like Until Dawn where nothing will actually be happening action wise but somehow the framerate goes to like 20. I don't know if its bad optimization or just focusing on the wrong things. 

I fell like that is a bad example because it doesn't depend on twitch gameplay.  Therefore, The focus is on other areas.  Like setting atmosphere.  The game exceeded quite nicely in this area.  Things are different now.