Paris terror attacks. 127 people reported killed

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HollyGamer said:

Innocent people. Innocent. That's the difference between Christianity and Islam. Christianity says that you should not kill - period.

Well why blaming Islam if Most of Cristian Kill Muslim, I am warned you not to discuss this because it's out of context and it will be better if we discuss on seperate matter,

The difference is that it is forbidden for Christians to kill anyone. There are no exceptions, there is not a single sentence in the Bible that allows anyone to kill - not the case in Islam. If a Christian kills, he's not doing it because of his religion, he's doing it against the religion, he's violating it. Muslims are allowed to kill, sometimes they are explicitly told to kill and they do kill in the name of Islam. That's the massive difference.

HollyGamer said:

Who isn't innocent? Well people who aren't Muslims for example. Even newly born non-Muslim babies are guilty - that's the problem.

I hope you can provide proofe for that, because that's the idelogy of Cristian every people is guilty and only with the help of Jesus that can save them " Yup that's Cristianity. In Islam every baby Muslim or not Muslimis not guilty, and only God who able to judge them.

And we only defend ourself if someone trying to kill us.

No, that's not Christianity. According to the Bible, we are all born with a sin, not guilty of something, but this doesn't matter in the topic we're talking about, because Christianity doesn't allow anyone to kill the sinners/guilty. In Islam all babies are born "pure" - they are Muslim ("drawn to Allah" - lol), but since Christian babies "turn" to Christianity, they become guilty of apostasy just like all other non-believers. Simple.

@Italic - that's a flat out lie. Just two examples:

Quran 4:89 - "They wish you would disbelieve as they disbelieved so you would be alike. So do not take from among them allies until they emigrate for the cause of Allah. But if they turn away, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them and take not from among them any ally or helper."

Quran 8:12 - "I will cast terror into the the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip off them."

Just two sentences, two of many. Quran tells Muslims to kill. I know most Muslims aren't psychopaths and don't follow what Islam tells them to do (even if they refuse to acknowledge it), but that doesn't change the fact that this savage crap is a part of Islam - there is no way around it. Just some choose to ignore parts of Islam, unfortunately some don't. Still, there is no such crap in Christianity. I think it's mindblowing that Muhammad wrote this book over half a thousand years after the New Testament was written. One would think that living so much later and having the luxury of availability of the Bible and the message It carries, he'd create something even more modern and advanced. Instead the book is a massive step back and is savage in comparison :/ No idea how he managed to convince so many people to follow it. On the other hand though, scientologists believe in a S-F novel from a very poor S-F writer...

Also:

Quran 4:104 - "And don't be weak in the pursuit of the enemy; if you are suffering (hardships) then surely, they (too) are suffering (hardships) as you are suffering."

Pursuit. Pursuit of enemy. Doesn't sound like "if someone is trying to kill us". Pursuit is no self-defence.

And Tabari 9:69 - "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us."

And... This can really go on...

 

HollyGamer said:

They are attacking Paris because there are over 10 mil Muslims in France,

Why they need to atttach Paris if there ara a lot of Musim living peacefully in Paris, ? this is so unlogical to normal people.

It's very logical, you just seem to look at it through rose tinted glasses. They attack in Paris, because there are thousands of Muslims there wanting to take over the country in the name of Islam. The Muslim districts of Paris are breeding grounds for terrorists. They know the city, they can easily organise the attack and hide there later on. It's perfectly logical.

HollyGamer said:

France is bombing Libya and Syria as well, so there is an obvious connection, you seem to be rather uneducated on the subject.

Well i do , but it's would be totally idiot for the leader of ISIS to split their power to attach useless target,  even their current state of power is not suffecient enough to hold Rusia, and also you need to learn one thing ISIS was exist to rid Syiah not the secularis.  you need to learn more on this matter.

Why would they split power!? Dude, this is the basic tactic of terrorists! They aren't interested in forming a single army to fight a single battle in one place, cause they'd all be killed in a matter of minutes. Instead they can send around 20 soldiers (ooops! Refugees!) to Paris and kill around 200 people. Win. The people they killed aren't useless targets, they managed to spread fear and killed a bunch of infidels. And just think how much money we'll have to spend on protection. Tens if not hundreds milions of euro, that in a normal world would be used to spread welfare, will instead be spent to try and prevent another attack. Such attacks do impact our economies more than they are worth and they are abusing it - it's all basic art of war.

And mind you, Russia has the second most powerful army in the world, so a claim that "their (ISIS') current state of power is not sufficient enough to hold Russia" is kinda funny They will never come close to the power of a fraction of the Russian army, it's gonna take decades even for China to catch up If Russians REALLY wanted to kill ISIS at all cost, nothing on this planet would stop them.