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zero129 said:
LurkerJ said:

Console guys...

Dude just stop pitting the two against each other, as I've said already. No rivalry between the two outside of gaming forums.

You are not breaking any news, PC gaming got cheap long ago. As I've already said, semi decent laptops from 2013 with Haswell integrated graphics cards enable access to a large libarary of quality games.

And please, when did gamers on forums care about how much they spend? Gaming is considered an expensive hobby, dismissing anyone trying to tell you that the build in the OP can be more expensive if you add other essential things to it isn't gonna convince anyone out of getting it.

We are not ignorant of how cheaper PC gaming got, people will continue buying either this or that regardless of the list of reasons you and I provide. In ways, consoles will always be superior to PCs and the opposite is true. 

I was not the first one to pit the two against each other. Yet you seem to like to try make it look so i wonder why?.

My comments have been in reply to strawman tactics from both you and Alien. Even now you are trying to use a strawman argument to paint it like i was the one who originaly did pit the two against each other when you know that is not the case.

Also why didnt you think of such things when you said that 3rd party AAA devs dont like to optimise for PC??. That comment alone is pitting both against each other.

Anyway im not going to get hung up on this. Fact is this PC can play any game thats out with a very high level of detail and a higher level then consoles this is not pitting the two against each other, but is in reply to a clear lie to a user that said this PC will only play Farcy instincts at less then 20FPS (You know the original farcry port that was on Xbox and X360).

So in reply to such comments i dont see a problem with pointing out a fact that this PC is more powerful then the PS4 the same way PS4 gamers have no problem with saying they have a more powerful console then an X1 player.

But if you feel thats a problem maybe you should enter every DF thread from now on and tell everyone how they should stay quite cos all they are doing is pitting the 2 against each other or even go after the source of bringing the thread off topic in the first place....

So Instead of you going after me or other Pro PC gamers, you should use that time to go after the ones who is derailing the thread by coming up with strawman tactics to do so. After all this is in the PC section...

So like i said, im not going to get hung up on this strawman argument you are trying to make of pitting the 2 against each other, when console gamers if they have no intention and are so negitive about pc gaming shouldnt even be in this thread complaining anyways and thats the main reason i added it to the PC section..

Anyway back on topic.

If i didnt already have a PC id buy this one, except id add an i5 cpu to it and then upgrade the GPU in another 3 years time since then id have more upgrade options with an i5 cpu in the future plus i think the extra cost would be worth it.

I tried to be reasonable to both sides. I am probably the only who mentioned that online is free on PC and that alone saves you $250-300. First few posts were almost mocking any attempt to add costs to your suggested PC build before those attempts were even made. I was not being negative, just bringing balance to the equation.

As for why I think PC/Consoles comparisons shouldn't matter it's because there are barriers between PC and consoles, thick enough to seperate the two, thick enough to justify Steam Machines.

On the other hand, pitting consoles against each other is natural because they compete in the same space. However, PC and Consoles competition overlap in much smaller zones.

As for negatvitiy towards PC gamers.... I am honestly not seeing anything out of the ordinary. This website will always attract a lot more console warz loverz over anything-else loverz, and PC isn't participating in these warz. In addition, does this sales-tracking website track PC sales? Most probably not. There is less PC gamers here because this website is basically geared towards console gamers.

Not to go off topic any further, I think the build your provided is great for the price, thanks.