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Starless said:
To be honest, I don't see games like Wii Sports and Wii Play games as adult games. They're just very accessable. They're games for adults that want to be like kids again. A game like BioShock (to choose a more recent example) seems (I obviously haven't played it, I'm basing this on what I've read) a lot more "mature". And a game like ICO is infinitly more mature than Wii Sports or Wii Play. It's like saying Harry Potter is an adults book. There's nothing deep about it, it's enjoyable because it makes you fell like a kid again. Real mature books are things like Ninteen Eighty-Four or Foundation. They make you think. I'm not saying a game like ICO is as mature as Ninteen Eighty-Four but it's certainly a lot close than Wii Sports.

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Anyway, I really hope that these adults that are being raked in by Wii Sports and Wii Play decide to give gamer games a go. Maybe they'll see how truely mature a game can be. If they don't, I see this big "non-gamer" push being completely useless to me. All we're going to see resources (not all resources, though) being switched to making overly simplistic games and "boundary breaking" games being left in the wayside again.

     I'll agree with that. Sports and Play aren't so much adult, but more the everybody title. Same with Brain Training, though I will say that does lean more towards the mature adult crowd, as it can (I assume) push your brain to working, less mature gamers might just want that surreal experience and not so much a quizzing one. BioShock might have a deeper storyline to it or a much more unique story element, but I'm not sure if it'll really appeal to anyone outside of that core male group (Though I will say it's definitely at least trying something new, not faulting it for that.)

    I guess you kind of have to look at a mix of different things, not so much just story or game elements but accessibility and content. A game based on Jeopardy or National Geographic studies would be more mature than even the deepest of shooter/RPG plots merely because of the level of interest you want to put into something. Anyone can really get behind a shooter and just explore around and shoot the bad guys, regardless of the story involved, or play into an RPG game and try to follow the story along. To enjoy a Jeopardy or NG game on, say, geology, you have to really want to enjoy something of that ilk. It's not something you'd just pick up and play, but the simple fact that it's content is based more off what you know outside the game, to really enjoy it. Hence, 'maturity' would mean more what your base pool of knowledge is, a 'more mature' game would expect more skill or intellectual prowess, while a 'less mature' game would be something that doesn't require as much thought to get into.

    It doesn't necessarily make you a bad person to play a game that doesn't require as much brain work or outside knowledge, but as there should be games of different genres, so should there be games that require more patience or more skill, or more thought.