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GribbleGrunger said:
mornelithe said:

What do you mean by that?  Do things change further after NPD?  I'd always thought it was the end all when it came to US sales?

I'm talking to the people who actually partook in the day to day discussion here. We have been saying for a long time now it's the preorders that could decide the outcome and clearly it has. It's obvous that the PS4 sold more in October itself but the XB1 preorders put it ahead. There's no way on earth that the Halo bundle only sold 30k in preorders over two months.

I'm not saying that the XB1 didn't win October (clearly it did), all I'm saying is taking ONLY the October numbers without preorders would show that Amazon was correct in predicting which console sold more.

Oh absolutely, I thought that was pretty much obvious.  I understand what you were saying now.  Thx.