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Bofferbrauer said:

JEMC said:

 

That memory kit is insame. I find it hard to believe that there's a market for it, besides business ofc.

My biggest problems with current cards are the size and the power consumption which equals to heat. My current case can't house cards longer than 10" or 25 cm, and it's a silent case so it doesn't like hot components (thought I have extra fans to deal with it). Of course I could get a new case, but with a limited budget, the money spend on a new case will mean less money for the card . 

So the new gen of cards at 16nm and HBM will solve my two problems at the same time: they'll be shorter and a mid range card won't use more than 175-200W while providing me with a huuuge performance upgrade.

I'm not sure if Mid-range Graphics cards will be using HBM since it's more expensive than GDDR5 and the high Bandwith would come to waste on them right now. I guess HBM will be limited to High-end and Enthousiast markets for the next 2 generations, only then will we see HBM in more mid-range cards

Will the chips be produced in 16 or 14 nm? Globalfoundries 14nm LPP (Low Power Plus) just reached production-ready yields. While the process is not ideal for x86 CPUs (exept low power models like Intel's Atom or AMDs Puma), it might be ideal for graphics chips

We'll see how the HBM thing goes, but that will mainly depend on how both Nvidia and AMD name and market their cards.

If Nvidia goes with a Titan-lika card from the get go, then it would be something like New Titan > 1080 > 1070 > 1060 ... Althought it will depend on the price, for me the 1070 would be mid-range and I expect it to use HBM just like 1080 (we know that at launch the x70 class chips are the ones that don't reach the quality of the x80 ones, so they will both have the same memory).

For AMD it will depend if they go with another round of Fury cards, which would mean Fury > 490X > 490 > 480X ... Using the same logic, the 490 would also have HBM. But I'm the first to point that with AMD it's a little bit harder to guess because they can price the 490/X too high and make the 480X as their mid-range card, which I don't think will have HBM.

I don't know where will AMD produce its chips, to be honest. The GloFo press release mentions:

“FinFET technology is expected to play a critical foundational role across multiple AMD product lines, starting in 2016,” said Mark Papermaster, senior vice president and chief technology officer at AMD. “GLOBALFOUNDRIES has worked tirelessly to reach this key milestone on its 14LPP process. We look forward to GLOBALFOUNDRIES' continued progress towards full production readiness and expect to leverage the advanced 14LPP  process technology across a broad set of our CPU, APU, and GPU products.”

Btw, I read a while ago that both th 14 and 16nm processes are the same, it's just that one measures the high and the others the wide of the transistor.