Valve says Steam Machines are better than gaming consoles

[SvennoJ]

greenmedic88 said:

SvennoJ said:
This doesn't sound like it will outperform consoles

$450 for Intel Core i3 Dual-Core processor, an NVIDIA Geforce GTX with 2GB of GDDR5 memory, 4GB of DDR3L system RAM

That seems to be the cheapest, does that include a controller?
For a product supposedly going on sale in 4 days, where are the details?

The issue with SteamBox is that it's licensed hardware functionally (I don't think hardware manufacturers are paying anything per box to Valve to run SteamOS), but not using standardized parts, so prices and specs will vary from vendor to vendor even when comparing "comparable" price tiered models. 

I suppose one could just google "cheapest Steam Machine" and see what kind of specs that buys and for how much.

I checked the Steam store, there are no more details available atm for that $450 Alienware machine.

The next one up does list actual specs
http://www.sybergaming.com/products/steam-machine.aspx
  $499 I3-4160 4GB DDR3 GTX 750 1GB GDDR5
  $729 I5-4460 8GB DDR3 GTX 960 2GB GDDR5
$1419 I7 4GHZ 16GB DDR3 GTX 980 4GB GDDR5
(comes with mini keyboard + touch pad but no controller)

The $729 should easily outperform the ps4, depending on game optimization of course.

They will come down in price anyway, the box looks nice enough for under the tv.