Rugby World Cup 2015 Official thread New Zealand vs Australia in the Final!!!!

[binary solo]

think-man said:

binary solo said:
I think going to 6 points for a try and dropping penalties down to 2 has unbalanced things. Either increase the try to 6 or drop the penalty to 2, but don't do both.

Try to 6 i say.

I think I agree.

The calculations are interesting in terms of tries vs penalties.

6pt try, 3pt penalty: 2 penalties vs unconverted try = draw (obviously); 3 penalties vs try (+/- conversion) = 3 or 1 pt lead on penalties. 2tries+1 conv requires 5 penalties to gain a 1 pt lead. It is no all that common for top tier games to have 5 penalty goals. Therefore if you score 2 tries and one conversion it would become highly unlikely for the opposing team to be able to win by penalties alone.

5pt try, 2pt penalty: unconverted try requires 3 penalties to get a lead, converted try requires 4 penalties for a lead; 2 unconverted tries required 6 penalties for a lead. 6 penalties in a top level rugby game is rare, so if you score 2 unconverted tries you are almost guaranteed to win as long as you can hold the other team try-less, which includes a few deliberate infringements in kicking range. This is muy main concern with dropping penbalties to 2 points, deliberate infringing becomes more likely because rthe cost of infringing (as long as it's not a yellow card or penalty try) is small.

I like the avoidance of time wasting by making a penalty trry an automatic 8 point. Taking time out to take an out in front conversion that is a guaranteed 2 points just soaks up time unnecessarily.

I like the option of a 5 metre drop out if the attacking team knocks on in-goal. That would allow for much better pressure relief than a defensive 5 metre scrum.