Hot dogs, bacon and other processed meats cause cancer, WHO declares

[pokoko]

FIT_Gamer said:

pokoko said:

So only cows, pigs, and chickens count?  Other animals don't?  And many animals kill for sport.  Cats, chimps, otters, dolphins, dogs, and wolves off the top of my head.  I'm sure there are many, many more.  Most of those will also kill the babies of thier own kind and sometimes eat them.  Actually, now that I think about it, pigs are mean as hell and will kill and eat pretty much anything they can, including cats, rats, and baby animals of other species.

No all animals matter, i don't pick and choose which ones are more important. I don't partake in speciesism. I just mentioned those animals because of the topic at hand. Those are the main ones we breed, torture, and kill by billions every year and they are most docile. All of those animals you listed kill out of necessity(food) or self defense. Also the scale of those situations doesn't even compare to what we do to them. Pigs mean as hell? lol Maybe abused pigs. Pigs are very docile and extremely smart, smarter than most breeds of dogs, but the majority of bacon eaters lose their shit when people talk about eating dogs. Reality is very few animals will go out of their way to injure or kill another animal without feeling threatened or for necessity due to their biological make up.  Humans were not designed to eat meat, and we are healthier without it. We haven't evolved to meat, which is why we still cook pretty much all meat to make it "safe".

You seriously have no idea what you're talking about and you should probably look this up before you go any further.  Most animals don't give a damn if other animals outside their pack die or even suffer.

And, no, all the animals I mentioned are documented as killing for reasons outside of food or defense.  Cats will play with small animals before killing them.  They'll also kill kittens that do not belong to them--I've seen that happen, by the way, as we've had an entire litter wiped out.  Wolves will hunt down and kill animals when they're not hungry and leave the carcass.  Otters will play and kill with fish even when they're full.  Sea lions will tear the fins off of fish and leave them to die, just for fun.  

Chimps will bully, gang up on, and murder other chimps for no reason we can determine.  They'll play with and kill smaller animals, including other primates.  They will take baby chimps away from their mothers and kill them. 

The gentle dolphin?  They kill other species for fun.

As far as pigs go, my uncle raised hogs.  Some of the boars are big and nasty tempered and will knock you down and maul you.  Wild pigs will attack you and won't hesitate to kill and eat other animals.  

People think all animals stepped right out of Disney movies but that's not true at all.  Most animals are amoral.