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Nem on 26 October 2015
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Mummelmann said:
Nem said:


I'm with JNK on this. Some posters are quick to jump to the victimisation. Sales to all audience vs the opinion or sales range of a group of hardcore gamers will be vastly different. Wether its within the same genre or not. I really dislike people making labels and trying to make of this another us vs them console war thread. Shock, but people may have played the predecessors and really enjoyed them wich makes this sample from a hardcore group of gamers very understandable. what would be weird is that because Xeno is a Nintendo game hardcore gamers would be showing their bias and say: i don't even play Nintendo games because its not on my console of choice and i will ignore gaming quality.

I dont know what goes over some people's head to think that there is a "right" opinion and that is to side with the majority, wich creates conflicts when they see something like this. Yes, Fallout 4 will sell more, but in this hardcore gamer community, Xenoblade X will sell more. That is not strange to me.

 

What this poll reveals is a big maturity on these forums. Quite honestly bigger than i thought. Not beeing swayed by the perceived majority and forming your own opinion regardless of what the majority thinks is the sign of maturity and mental independence. I applaud the honesty that this poll shows.

Quite honestly i though the "both" option was gonna win. I am pretty surprised.


People who buy Xenoblade X are more mature than people who buy Fallout 4? Or people who form their own opinions are more mature? People who buy Fallout 4 don't have their own opinions?

I'm sorry, I'm just confused.

As for myself, I played Fallout 1 and 2 and loved them both, Fallout 3 was good but not great, New Vegas was great in my opinion and I'm looking forward to Fallout 4 as well. That opinion and expectation is built around an almost 20 year old love for the series and the setting and not hype or juvenile peer pressure. I'm not saying that many of the buyers won't be the customers brought in by the latter, Bethesda started pulling more casual strings with Oblivion and took it to another level with Skyrim, and it resulted in amazing sales, but there are a lot of people who buy them for being solid titles and for enjoying the settings, gameplay and overall genres as well.

To me, this sounds like another attempt at "people who play Nintendo games are mature, others are not", or "Nintendo gamers are the true hardcore gamers",  which is something people have been saying in here for nearly a decade. I could be completely misinterpreting your last bit but it honestly sounds like that old schtick.

I voted Fallout 4 and I'm also being completely honest and not swayed by majority opinion; if anything, I've been a careful skeptic all along and I've offered a bunch of criticism towards Bethesda games and other so called "AAA" games for many years in here. Besides; who's to say that people aren't being swayed by mass opinions on Nintendo platforms as well and not really making their own (mature) choices?


Wait there, you are twisting my words. I didnt say people voting on F4 aren't mature. I said people voting on F4 and then coming in and saying: "this shows how biased these forums are", aren't mature. A bit of a difference there that is quite significant.

Make no mistake, i love Fallout. This isnt about fallout at all. Its about atitudes. I would say you are trying too hard to find a discrimination where there isnt one. This is not about Nintendo gamers either. Its showing what you like regardless of what the majority or socially acceptable choice is. It makes those that conform themselves to the majority feel quite unconfortable and show their colors, as we have seen. 

Also, if you did read my first post on this thread, you would know i'm expecting Fallout 4 to be better, so if i had a bias, it would be a very strange one. This isnt what you thought it was mummel.