zero129 said:
Ruler said:
zero129 said:
Ruler said:
Chazore said:
Or PC since, especially since this is the most recent and brand new topic where it's apparently ok to dream and instantly achieve full on 4k/60fps but since PC users are striving for that at the moment it apparently doesn't matter and is way too expensive and non viable, totally viable and ok when Sony does it though.
I honestly wouldn't be dreaming of a 4k console since it's highly unlikely that a PS5 would even manage full 4k at even 60fps let alone 30, this gen every game isn't full on 1080/60 without some sort of sacrifice being made in one form or another (someone's damn well gonna argue me being wrong but I'm really not because noted sacrifices have been made for both Xbox and PS4, it's just a fact given to us by the hardware itself).
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Because some people dont want to deal with PCs, graphicscards and drivers but still get that performance. Not to mention about exclusives which arent avaible on PC but run at 30fps on the PS4.
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Its a double standed simple as.
Console fans excuse against PC's is that they need to be upgraded every so often. Well geez i guess when it comes to PS4 now Console fans suddenly dont mind having to keep upgrading every few years to have the best looking games? Dont give me the excuse about exclusives as that was never the issue when Sony fans was using "Upgrading" as a reason for not wanting a PC. Plus 4k wasnt such a big deal to the sony fans same as 1080P wasnt lastgen but as soon as it comes to a sony console its ok?.
Anyway I hope this does happen since no longer will Sony fans be able to say "well at least we dont have to buy new hardware every 2-3 years" and before someone says "no one is forcing a user to upgrade" yes the same way as no one forces a PC gamer to upgrade.
Also upgrading your gpu drivers is no harder then upgrading your console so thats a mute point...
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Yes upgrading to play games is an issue for console gamers but upgrading to get better performance is a different thing. I dont see where we are hypocriticals here espacially me since i was always for it. Its not comparable to PC but rather Apple Macs.
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Like i said double standeds. Macs are pretty much PC's (Personal computer) anyway only you cant upgrade them and they are over priced for what they do.
And isnt that the main reason why PC users upgrade to get better performance?, so how is it any different?. Anyway i think something like this would ruin console gaming. The main selling point of a console is you get that console and it plays all the same games looking exactly the same as everyone else who owns that console and will continue to do so till the end of that console gen. All this does is make other users feel like they have to upgrade so they can keep up with their mates. And before you know it that thing about consoles being cheaper then PC's become a mute point..
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So switching from ps3 to ps4 is also hypocritical? The main selling point of a console is that it works out of a box, it doesnt matter if there is a better version out there as long as all the games for the system work on all hardware versions.
Consoles will always be cheaper than PCs because Sony, Nintenbdo and MS get 10% roaylties from each game sold. Thats why the PS4 is so cheap because Sony doesnt try to make money from the units.
Even the launch model of the PS3 cost them 900$ to produce and they sold you it for 600$, it had blueray, the cell cpu both expensive technologies at the time and it had a built in PS2 for BC.
If Sony would make a PS4K you probably wouldnt pay more than 600$, and you would get the same results in horsepower like paying 1000$ for PC hardware. With PC hardware its different, you have to pay each company money so they are profitable for each component in your computer. While Sony would produce them in mass production for one single Console, making all the deals with the hardware manufactors. Plus they wont try to make any money from the hardware itself like i have mentioned above.
Normally the PS4 counting the built-quality in, it should cost 600$ but Sony isnt Dell or Apple. They make money from the software sales thats why its 350$. So worrying about sony becoming like Apple is groundless.
