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bouzane on 22 October 2015
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padib said:
bouzane said:


It has less to do with "cencorship in the past" and more to do with Christian movements such as Nazism. Do you honestly think that censorship is the crime that people are concerned with and not their fostering of white supremacy, fascism, torture, child molestation, war and terrorism? Do you actually think that these organizations are innocent of any serious wrongdoing? We are talking about the most widespread force for "evil" the world has ever seen and one that continues to undermine civil liberties and foster hatred. Sorry but you really are naive if you think that the Churches are a positive force that people hate for "cencorship in the past"... I mean really, that's the motive you made up for our actions, really? I participate in the undermining of Churches because they dehumanized me as a child, they are connected to nearly every white supremacist in the damn province and they make a fortune off of spreading their disgusting values. Do not pretend to understand my actions or motives and do not make up explanations.

You're twisting my words. I never said it was the only reason, I said it was A reason.

And I was trying to highlight an irony in what you and your "Friends" were up to.

Quite creepy stuff bro.


It was never a reason to begin with, it was something you just made up.

Also, my point still stands. I know numerous religious leaders who hate the religions that they pretend to believe in and I know many politicians who hate the ideologies that they pretend to adhere to (as well as their voters). I might even go as far as to say that this is the majority if not a sizeable minority of those who hold power. If you want to destroy something you do it from within and Harper is probably the greatest example I have ever encountered. Again, you would have to be incredibly gullible to see his actions as anything but malicious. I was victimized by the Church, my family is constantly oppressed by the Churches, our society is constantly attacked by the Churches and many people such as myself work our way into positions of power where we can destroy them. The exact same applies to politics as the nation's greatest enemies are politicians. I fear that we have been derailing this thread so I will leave it at this, you can go ahead and invent reasons for my actions or fail to address my points all you want now.

@OP

I fear for Western Liberalism. I fear that the great ideology of freedom may succumb to Neo-Progressivism and Authoritarianism. Trudeau may not be as bad as Harper but many of his actions seem misguided and he certainly doesn't strike me as being an actual Liberal.