If you think about it, the original xbox was ahead of its time besides xbox live.

[DonFerrari]

zero129 said:

DonFerrari said:

zero129 said:

No compared to the Saturn the PS1 was easy to develope for. also they done it so that devs couldnt max out the consoles and in return that made it hard for pc devs or did you not see that quote up there from kaz?.

MS allowed it to be easy for PC devs since coding for the xbox was so much like coding for a pc very different from the PS2 and PS3.

I saw, and it says it would make it take longer to max out the console. Not specifically about prohibit or make specially worse for PC devs... it affected them and all 3rd parties... so your point is that by making it harder for everyone they were focusing on making it worse just for PC?

And Dreamcast being alien design don't make PS1 easy, just easier... and since PS2 released before Xbox and GC you can't say they decided to make it harder than both, just hard... so is there any purpose to this or just complain about sony?

What im saying must be going right over your head at this stage cos you just dont seem to be getting it.

Where did i say that Sony made it hard for "Just" Pc developers??, my words where "MS made it easy for PC developers" . No point in trying to base your argument around something that doesnt exist..

And the Dreamcast was easy to develope for since it was running an MS OS, so i dont know where your getting that from..

And yes it was easier on Sony themselfs, since they knew their own hardware! and was the ones making the SDK's but shipping out PS2 SDK's to western devs with japan manuals and being a few updates behind compared to some of the japanese studios didnt help western devs with developing for the PS2 also..

As for your last remark.. You shouldnt ask someone a question if when you dont like facts or their answer your just going to downplay it as "Simply complaining" .

In this thread you have offended another user and me twice with pedantic "must be going right over your head" and which fact I didn 't like and your suggestion of fanboyism to me and the other user... and what purpose does that hold?

this is what you said

But like i said i never said that no PC ports ever came to a Sony Console. I said Sony made it harder on PC devs with the PS2 and PS3 where as MS paved the way by making it super easy on them.

MS allowed it to be easy for PC devs since coding for the xbox was so much like coding for a pc very different from the PS2 and PS3.

So yes, you were implying by some reason that sony was focusig on make difficult to PC devs and MS easier... the Kaz quote and your explaining shows that it clearly was harder for all no focus on PC dev, but you tried to defend the other point, so please decide yourself and be more respectfull.

And I mixed DC with Saturn, which also come after PS1, so Sony difficult to dev for have no relation with their competitors or making it harder on specific devs or region of the globe... and yes X360 made Sony focus on making PS4 easier.