In defense of Microsoft: A response to DMeisterJ

[ils411]

starcraft said:

ils411 said:

100,000 people bought Xbox 360's this week gone for GTAIV (extrapoloted based on the difference in sales WW week-over-week). The vast majority of those peopl were PS2 owners. Think about that for a moment. 100,000 of the kind of people that only buy one console per generation will, from this moment on, be purchasing games for a Microsoft console (the console sales themselves will already have given Microsoft a profit off these new customers) INSTEAD of a Sony console.

so where's your proof that majority of the 100k people who bought the x360 are ps2 owners? where is your proof that these people only buy one console per generation? link? evidence? none? no link/evidence = baloney

 

But 100,000 people left Sony for Microsoft this week, and as many as 300,000 left Sony for Nintendo

again, where's your proof that these 100k-300k individuals owned a ps2? link? evidence? proof? none? again = bunch of baloney

 

it has a more expansive, diverse and quality-filled library than the PS3 (according to Gamerankings.com).

this is what i would expect from a fanboy. and fanboy=bias=unreliable srouce of information for other consoles.

 

Futhermore, Microsoft has significantly more leverage to cut prices than Sony does, suggesting that by the end of the year, the console will be approaching mass market prices, such as the $US199 point where the PS2 did the majority of it's business

really? and you know this from where?

 

However, given the business models of both Sony and Microsoft call for early hardware losses to be recovered on software sales, I'd think the fact the Xbox 360 continues to have enormous software sales and just substantially outsold Sony on a Playstation associated franchis is arguably the most significant factor for us to examine.

your right, let us indeed examine this further

i believe associated franchise=gtra4

install base

x360 (us+others)= 18,116,203

ps3 (us+others) = 10,281,004

ratio = 1:1.7 in favor of x360

 

gtaiv week 1 sales

x360 (us+others) = 3,288,125

ps3 (us+others) = 2,613,973

ratio = 1:1.2 in favor of x360

 

attach ratio

x360 = 18%

ps3 = 25%

 

sales boost versus previous week (us+others)

april 26

ps3 - 187,299

x360 - 159,763

 

may 3

ps3 - 342,606

x360 - 264,305

 

sales increase

ps3 - 82%

x360 - 65%

 

hmmmmmmm

Wow.  Just wow.

Everything I said is clearly my opinion.  But why for example, do people in this thread seem happy to believe that those buying PS3's last week bought them for GTAIV were PS2 owners, but not the same truth for Xbox 360?

As for the ridiculous software comparision you just made?   How about you just understand one thing?  A franchise that sold ridiculous amounts on Sony platforms and only a few million total on Microsoft platforms, just sold more of it's most recent iteration on the Xbox 360 than on the PS3.

Developers arn't going to care much about attach rates if one console is still selling more software than the one with the 'better' attach rate.  In any case, the Xbox 360's attach rate across the board is better than the PS3's.

But you clearly missed one of my major points which is this:  Unlike last generation, both the Microsoft and Sony platforms will prove to be viable choices for all third party games this generation, to the exclusion of NONE (except moneyhatted games).  This means that unless the PS3 suddenly gains an inexplicable 20 million+ userbase advantage over the Xbox 360, the PS3 will get no exclusive games it wouldn't already have received. 

 

dude, when sighting figures/numbers, there is no "my opinion". its like saying, hey vgchartz figures for ps3 is way off! it should be 100bilion trilion units sold already!!! imo".... i'd happly ask for proof/link from anybody (wii/ps3/x360 fanboy) for proof and links when it comes to figures/numbers and such claims similar to which you made. and before i forget, ps3 not geting anymore exlusive is again "your opinion"? if not, again, proof? link? evidence? none? your full of hot air.