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Nuvendil on 12 October 2015
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binary solo said:
GribbleGrunger said:
binary solo said:
On the monthly chart, Destiny LE and TLOUR are the only PS4 skus being shipped now that are ahead of Halo 5. I think factoring in the August and September pre-orders, the Halo 5 bundle is definitely ahead of TLOUR for now but TLOUR is selling better so the gap is closing in favour of TLOUR, and considering Halo 5 is ahead of Destiny in the hourlies it is obviously either closing the gap or pulling ahead, as the Aug and Sept pre-orders could possibly put Halo 5 ahead of even the Destiny bundle.

Is there any neogaf chatter about how well the price cut on PS4 has done at other retailers, and what the pre-orders for Halo 5 have been like at retailers?

Let's wait and see what how Destiny does once it's actually in stock!

If it stays at $399 I don't see it moving all that much. Currently the Amazon back order listing is $399, so possibly Sony has kept the Destiny LE bundle at $399 MSRP and only dropped the price for basic black and basic white, and associated formerly $399 bundles.

I think realistically with mostly only Halo 5 as a significant draw for Xb one this holidays PS4 is likely to win Nov and Dec if the MSRPs for the basic consoles are $350 for both PS4 and Xb one. There's a general sense that Xb one does better in the holidays because of the attraction of the holiday "casual" buyer due to the Kinect effect from late 7th gen. But if you consider that the only reason Xb one won Nov/Dec last year was the $50 price difference AS WELL AS giving away AC IV and Unity for free it suggests the holiday effect disproportionately helping Xbox does not apply to this generation. So without a core advantage for Xb one PS4 is generally favoured to win holidays this gen, IMO. Is Halo 5 enough of a core advantage by itself for this year? Maybe, maybe not. If it's not, then Xb one has a long term problem even in the US market. If it is then Xbox has a fairly secure future in the US market. I think MS should try to get through with just Halo 5 because throwing a price cut in along with Halo 5, and possibly coming out only just ahead of PS4 basically means MS has thrown the kitchen sink at the US market and has nothing left to throw. If they only run with Halo 5 and narrowly lose to PS4 it means they still have price movement next holidays to add to the holiday 2016 exclusive lineup. If they only go with Halo 5 and narrowly win then that is even better. If they go with a price cut along with Halo 5 and win big (by that I mean completely whiping out the entire lead PS4 has built up during the year, and possibly eating into some of the lead PS4 had at the start of the year) that is great but it is probably the least likely outcome of the various scenarios.

Well it's not jus that MS doesn't have AC, PS4 now has AC.  AND last holidays, MS had CoD bundles and advertising as well.  Now PS4 has that.  It's not just MS has lost those crutches, Sony took them.  People were downplaying those moves after E3 but I think people drastically underestimate the power of so many marketing agreements.  Sony has Destiny, CoD, AC, and Star Wars while MS just has Fallout 4 this holiday.  So yeah, unless MS goes insane and starts practically burning mountains of money even more than last year, they have very little chance of winning the holidays, imo.