zorg1000 said:
archer9234 said:
zorg1000 said:
Soundwave said:
It's not always execution. People always think this is a merit based business and by golly if you do a good job consumers will notice and reward you. No, not always. The market is its own beast and it also dictates where and how things go.
Something that might have worked great 2-8 years ago can often times find itself in tough during a different time period.
Happens with lots of things. Consumer electronics, fashion trends, movies, music, whatever. Certain products that might have worked in a different time don't work at another time, the consumer is the ultimate arbiter of everything and what the mood of the market is constantly changes.
People always shit on the Vita but it's not a bad product. It's not as if the PSP was 8x better product and thus deserved 8x better sales. PSP just had much weaker competetion, back in 2004/05 having a 1.2 megapixel camera on your phone was "ballin'". The access you had to entertainment sources when you left your house was largely nill unless you were a kid that carried around a Game Boy or you had an iPod which was the hot thing that let you listen to music and basically did nothing else.
If the iPhone did fail, then yes maybe it would be correct to say the market isn't ready for a "smartphone" yet, obviously though that wasn't the case.
Execution is part of it, but so are competitive factors. The market today is very different from the market 10-12 years ago and the market of 10-12 years in the future will be very different from today. The companies that are successful are the ones that can adapt to changing trends.
Making great products and of itself isn't enough. The new Blackberry phone is a well designed, very nice product. Nothing wrong with it. Other than the fact that Blackberry needed that phone 5-6 years ago, because it's coming out now it's not going to do much of anything for their brand. Doesn't mean the product is bad or poorly made.
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Well ya that's pretty obvious but not really what Spemanig and I were getting at. We were simply saying that a product failing doesn't automatically mean it had a bad concept, sometimes a good idea can simply be executed wrong and another company will come along using the same concept and have success.
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Which falls in the line of being lucky too. Take Jurassic World. If you asked anyone who made the movie. No one would of said it was gonna make a billion dollars. It's more a random happenstance when things take off. Also, crash and burn.
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I'm not sure how that example relates
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I say it does. Vita all intents and purposes, is a good product. But it doesn't have a purpose of exsisting. Why? It's redunant. And doesn't offer a compelling reason to own it. Now, if iphones, the 3ds and other devices weren't invented yet. The vita would of worked, and been loved. Even with the memory card price problem. People would be still pissed. But sucked it up. It would be at the right place, at the right time. That's a form of luck/good timing.
50 other companies can break into gaming. But will it work out for them. Usually no. The void/space for the area is filled. It's why Apple and Android work. Combined, they got the majority of people wanting cell phones. Anyone else making one, is looked as inferrior, and or I already have it. Don't care about you. You can bitch apple is missing this this and this. While Android has this this and this. You won't convince that side. They are content with what they have. So the product fails. And not at the fault of the product. Or the strategy the company picked.
People can blame Sony doesn't support their hardware. And ignores it. They have a reason for that. They tried for a full year. And no one cared to buy it. So it's now no longer apart of being cool. It's that TV show that used to be a mega hit. But eventually people left it. It's still on, doing decent numbers. But there's no longer any promos of it IE: The Simpsons. That's what I meant by being lucky. This discussion really went way off OP topic lol.
