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ils411 said:
Wonktonodi said:


I think he ment the ps3 and it's a similar case since the new model didn't have bc live the old ps3 models had.

As for the x one. From many consumers. The priced of the new model that wasn't available before was the equivalent of a price cut. They didn't have to pay as much for what they wanted. Microsoft just cutting the price, or Microsoft taking something out the consumer didn't want to reduce the price makes no difference to them. 

Another way of putting it is Microsoft reduced the minimum asking price to play on the Xbox one. yes there were less features, but reducing the price of entry is a big deal and doing it twice in a year was a big deal.

Wrong. For many consumers, its a way to get an Xbox One at a cheaper price without the kinect that no one really wanted. they didn't go "hey $399.00 Xbox one without kinect!! price cut!" they went "hey! xbox one for $399.00 WITHOUT KINECT! HELLZ YEAH!!!"

And yes, it does make a difference, its a matter of lower price with lesser value. but most of the early adopters are the core gamers and don't care for kinect, hence the perception that the removal of kinect didn't change the value. 

if the kinect bundle was reduced in price to $399 and the without kinect one was $349, you can bet your ass that everyone will be willing to shell out the extra $50 for the kinect coz of greater value. 

considering that there was only 1 cut, thats not that big a deal. what makes it a big deal is the fact that MS had to cut the price so soon after launch. much like how nintendo was forced to cut the price of the O3Ds so soon after release due to crapy sales. 

most cosumers would say what's kinect?

not really since many people were pissed they had to pay more before for something they didn't want

once again they cut the minimum price of entry twice. The fact they cut the kinect out doesn't change the fact that the price of entry was reduced. The fact they were willing to stop making kinect madatory so soon means all those that had it before were stuck with some hardware that is going to be getting much less suport from then on.