potato_hamster said:
zorg1000 said:
Wii U is nothing like Wii so that comparison falls flat on its face. Wii was cheap, simple, had great marketing, lacked software droughts, introduced a lot of new IP/concepts, had low development costs, etc. basically the exact opposite of Wii U.
Nintendo lost the Wii audience not because people no longer liked them but because Nintendo failed to adapt to the changing market and released an unappealing device.
The unified concept makes the most sense for Nintendo on many levels, creating a single platform available in various form factors reduces R&D costs significantly compared to making 2 completely separate platforms, developing games for a single platform vs 2 separate platforms is much more cost and time effective, its much easier and more cost effective to market one single line of devices than to market 2 distinct platforms, there will no longer be software droughts from Nintendo because all of their games will be available on either form factor, Nintendo can diversify their portfolio by creating new IP and reviving old IP at a faster rate since they are no longer forced to make 2 separate entries of all their franchises, 3rd parties are more likely to support a single Nintendo platform vs supporting 2 Nintendo platforms.
The only 3rd parties that would be alienated are the ones that don't and have never really supported Nintendo, companies like Take-Two or Bethesda. Japanese devs like Atlus, Level-5, Capcom, Bandai Namco, Square Enix, Koei Tecmo will all likely be on board as well as Western devs like Activision, Ubisoft, Electronic Arts, Warner Bros with their more family/kids/casual focused software, indies will also like this setup.
Also there is the rumor from Nikkei, which is a pretty reliable source, that Nintendo is planning on using a form of Android for its OS making it extremely easy to port over mobile games to their devices. As devs start abandoning previous gen devices, it seems like they will replace them by making mobile versions kinda like we have seen with Arkham Knight/Mortal Kombat X getting mobile versions, I could see other AAA titles like Call of Duty or Assassin's Creed start to get smaller mobile versions in place of PS3/360 versions. These games coming to NX will benefit Nintendo.
Then there is also the new membership/rewards program that Nintendo is about to roll out where Iwata mentioned things like discounts based on how many games u buy and discounts for referring games to friends. This plan will help make software more affordable for consumers.
Nintendo is also set to significantly increase marketing through various means. Mobile games/apps and IP licensing such as theme park attractions & films/series. These things will make Nintendo more recognizable to millions of people while also generating a ton of revenue for them.
More affordable hardware/software, vastly greater release schedule, increased marketing, among other things can certainly make Nintendo devices much more attractive to consumers, largely the family/kids/casual markets. I have yet to hear from anybody how making a device with a huge focus on the PS/XB audience could succeed, the only argument seems to be, "make more powerful hardware than the competitors and everything will just fall into place".
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It's almost laughable how much confidence you have when it's obvious you've never made a console video game, much less a video game for a Nintendo console in your life. I have. What makes you think the Wii had low development costs, or that the development costs of the Wii U are somehow higher? Companies made super cheap shovelware games for the Wii because it sold like gangbusters to casuals, and because third party games sold horrifically, these companies knew they had to be cheap in order to be successful. Making a solid game for the Wii didn't cost less than making a solid game for the X360.
And now you're pretending that this "single platform" will somehow be significantly less expensive to develop as a console for Nintendo than it is to develop two separate platforms, and I'm just curious why you think this. Name me a single video game platform that has supported significantly different hardware specifications, different control schemes/ form factors. Ohh right, none. Care to tell me how much cheaper the NX dev kit will be to develop and purchase than it will be to develop seperate developer kits for the Wii U and 3DS? Because it could actually cost Nintendo more than those two combined, and that's just the developers kits. Based on my experience with Nintendo, their developer kits, and their developer tools, Nintendo is by far the worst platform to develop for. Their tools are serverely lacking compared to Sony and MS, and their Dev Kits are much harder to use and have less features. Now you expect them to develop a dev kit that is arguably the most complicated, sophisticated dev kit ever made, and have it be cheaper than other dev kits, and have improve tools that actually make it easier to develop for compared to its predecessors? That's unrealistic. Is the firmware/OS going to be simpler to create and develop for. Perhaps, but that really is only a benefit for Nintendo itself.
Now, does this really address a game drought? Not really. Since this whole game drought revolves around Nintendo games, and as we have established, Nintendo's first party games do not sell consoles like they used to, spreading all of the Nintendo IPs across both platforms does what exactly? How is this going to sell significantly more games? Which leads me to third parties. Why on earth will they bother? Because it's cheaper to develop a game for NX combined than it is to make a game for both the NX and the 3DS? So what? That's only cheaper for the developers who are already making games for both platforms. For any third party that isn't currently making Wii U or 3DS games, the NX will be far more expensive to develop a game for than it would be to just make a Wii U game or just made a 3DS game, and third parties don't even want to make that investment as it is! Think about it. On the testing side alone you literally doubled the time and cost of testing compared to a PS4 game. Then there's adjustments to things like audio quality, texture quality, 3D models, animations and rigs, UI adjustments, AI and gameplay adjustments for the different specs, etc. etc. All of these things will need to be modified and tested for each specification. It doesn't "just scale".
Aside from that, what realistic reason do you have to think that the NX as a whole will sell so much better than the 3DS to justify the added development costs? You think indies are going to like this set up? It will still be cheaper for them to make a PS4 game than to make an NX game. Why would they bother?
You are making all kinds of baseless assumptions that has convinced you that this unifed platform will be a huge hit, while completely glossing over these gigantic, glaring issues in the whole thing. The unified platform makes sense for Nintendo, and only Nintendo. For third parties it's a disaster waiting to happen
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