NX power

[Scisca]

Xenostar said:

Scisca said:

Look. Nintendo when designing the NX has to take into account PS4 costing $299. This is a given, they'd have to be complete idiots if they were still considering $399 competitors. This means no $400 console, you really are out of touch suggesting something like that. $299 is by far the most NX can cost. They have only 3 options really, $249, $279, $299. What they have to do is hit one of these marks with their price with a console slightly more powerful than the PS4. I think it is possible considering they have 3 years of extra tech development on their side. I mean, with a $299 PS4 (and a $249 Xbone?) just how cheap would an underpowerd NX have to be to get people interested? $149? Do you honestly think such a console would be interesting for anyone? Don't forget that Wii went against ridiculously expensive competition, something different than what NX will have to face in a year. Competition is priced very well, it's totally affordable, so competing on price really isn't the best option.

Nintendo makes cartoony games - cool, but the audience for Nintendo games only is very, very small as N64, GCN and Wii U show you. They can't afford yet another arrogant approach to 3rd parties. They need to win them back, or they are setting themselves up for another disaster. Finally making a console powerful enough and with x86 architecture would be enough for 3rd parties to give them games. Giving them tools to make the best console experience would draw their attention and also draw all gamers who "want the best".

I guess we just have different approach and expectations. We'll see what Nintendo goes for, I hope they make a console more powerful than PS4 (1080p/60fps multiplats is what I want). In any other case - I'm gonna ignore the console just like I did with the Wii U and will go for PS4.

At this point i just dont think Nintendo can win 3rd parties back, to win them back goes far beyond the console tech. Sony and MS now have massive amounts of developer support and tools, integrated systems to support games, Marketing budgets the list goes on and on. 

If they put out an identikit AMD build that the other 2 have even slightly more powerful, then yeah they will probably get ports of all the yearly franchises, but do you see people throwing aside there xbox or PS and friends on those platforms to play this years COD on Nintendo, great for Nintendo fans obviously, but its not going to help them gain marketshare.

Nintendo are fusing there consoles so they can concentrate all there user base into one place and so they can concentrate on making games that work on all there devices, instead of having to choose to make a mario game this year for this platform or that platform.

If this doesn't help, nothing will. But let's not forget, that the reason 3rd parties rule on PS/Xbone isn't arbitrary. It's a consequence of years of MS and Sony support. Nintendo neglected that, so  now they have to pay the price and deal with the burden they put on themselves. It's not easy nor cheap, but it's a consequence of negligence on their part, so they can only blame themselves and finally do what their partners expect them to do.

I think a September/October 2016 release is still early enough in the gen to win a respectable number of people back. Not every PS360 gamer has already made the jump, a big number is still up for grabs and the next gen is still quite far away. Maybe they could allow for online play with PC gamers or even PS4 gamers? This is all up to deals they make, cross-platform multiplayer is open for debate and negotiations, PC shouldn't be any problem. That would help somewhat.

Still, I think that having the best 3rd party games and unified Nintendo 1st party offerings would make a massive splash in my opinion. I'd go for that in a blink of an eye.