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Neodegenerate said:

A proper item by definition is an item suitable for use for the function you are trying to perform.  All of your gripes are preference based, which does not change the defintion of what an item is.


for the sake of not arguing for eternity, lets say its true (because it is to an extent) that still doesnt make them as Ergonomic as home console controllers. which is the original difference i was pointing out.