Soundwave said:
Miyamotoo said:
Soundwave said:
Miyamotoo said:
Battery capacity and hardware architecture are much improved from period when 3DS was project and introduced. 3DS XL has battery 1700 mAh and pretty weak hardware specs, today phones have battery capacity 3000-4000 mAh, 5-6" displays with 1440p resolution, 4GB Ram, 8-core CPUs and suitable GPU and yet battery can survive at least 5 hours of constant using.
I dont see problem if handheld continue to sell better like it was always, that wasn't problem previous gens for Nintendo.
In case of devices (handheld and home console) I did not mentioned any specs but I dont see problem there either because they will use exactly same architecture, I don't think it would so much difference in power between handheld and home console, with handheld Nintendo will probably aim for 480-720p resolution and with home console probably 1080p with better textures and effects.
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I've kinda thought about this, the thing is batteries are not particularily expensive. For example the battery in an iPhone 6 Plus costs Apple like $5.50. So that's no the issue per se.
The issue is more about size. The battery is huge once you start getting into power consumption at a sustained 4-5 watts/hour for gamplay. The iPhone 6 Plus for example has 11.1 watts per hour in that 2915 mAh battery. That means at a 4-5 watt push from a gaming handheld, the battery would be dead in about 2 hours.
You need a battery more akin to what's in the iPad and other tablets (much larger). The fourth gen iPad for example had an insane 43 watts per hour battery (I suspect the new iPad Pro is about the same or even bigger).
Not to mention the heat being generated.
For the portable Nintendo may honestly be better off going with a more tablet like form factor (like the iPad mini) and then waiting for a die shrink to 10nm for a more classic GBA SP/DS styled handheld as the years go on.
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I dont see how exactly 3000 mAh battery could last only 2 hours in gaming handheld when 1700 mAh battery last around 4-5 hours in 3DS XL or 1500 mAh Wii U gamepad battery last around 4 hours on 6.2" display!?
About size and form factor, do you realise that 5" phones now have battery with 4000 mAh!? So we have device that is much smaller than 3DS XL (not mentioned Wii U gamepad) with battery twice of Wii U gamepad capacity.
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Smartphones generally are not pushed to 5-6 watts/hour, things like browsing the internet or what people normally do on their phone eats up maybe 2-3 watts/hour.
You want a battery more like the one in the iPad Air 2 -- 7000-8000+ mAh, then you can get a fairly high end level of gaming performance (PS3+/Wii U level) using a 14nm chip at 70 GFLOPS/watt. Or even better yet the monstrous 11,560 MaH battery from the 4th gen iPad.
The battery isn't even that expensive, it's just that it's large. It would be very difficult to put that kind of battery into a 3DS XL form factor for now (maybe when you get to 10nm that becomes a possibility). But it would be workable in a tablet size casing for next year, of that I'm fairly sure.
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This level of performance isn't even remotely possible yet when using the comparisons between PS4 and XB1, dude you really need to stop using Flops to compare different company's technologies, it's a pointless comparison.
The various companies making different processing technologies do not use the same standard for measuring Floating Point Operations, so trying to compare Apple's tech to IBM or whoever else Nintendo may use for their processors makes your points about flops per watt moot.
Comparing like for like, like AMD's last generation to this one is way more fitting, TBH AMD are most likely who Nintendo are going to partner with for various reasons, mainly because they've been ATI/AMD partners on their GPU for years and a single SOC for everything processor related in your device makes manufacturing much simpler and cheaper.
Hell we even have AMD saying they've partnered with a company to make a processor for a new console and we know Nintendo are announcing NX next year, it may be a slight reach to say it's definitely AMD, but it's not a reach in the slightest to say that AMD are the most likely partner for this.
