Americans and Non-Americans, What is Your Opinion on the United States of America in General

[binary solo]

Poliwrathlord said:

binary solo said:
I'm married to one of you lot, and I like her. But then again, she's one of the non-isolationist Americans who left the country permanently, so you'd probably hate her and call her un-American. Most Americans I know are great people, but they tend to be the more liberal minded ones because they are the American's who aren't afraid of the rest of the world and who have left the USA temporarily or permanently in order to see and understand a bit more about the world.

If you became as isolationist as you wanted to you'd eventually morph into North Korea. That's what isolationist countries do, they become more extreme, less tolerant, and more militaristic. I guess if you want all those things then continue chanting for isolationism. But I don't think you really understand what isolationism means. You may be more inclined to be in favour of neutrality, like Switzerland, than isolationism like North Korea and Bhutan.

I wouldn't consider your wife un-American. I have left my country and have seen the world and I too would also consider moving to another country permanently. I am not afraid of the rest of the world, I just love my country.

As for the isolation thing, I just want it to be harder to become a citizen of the U.S. and for us to try to crack down on illeagal immigration. And yes, you are correct, I would prefer neutrality and for the U.S. not to get involved in the rest of the world's problems. I would rather us sit back and watch the rest of the world burn and for us not to interfere.

It is very hard to become a US citizen. Gaining US citizenship is not a problem that needs to be dealt with, even gaining a green card is not a problem that needs to be addressed. Even illegal immigration is only a localised problem not a national problem. And it's not that big of a problem. It's just a great political weapon.

But even assuming illegal immigration is a problem, how do you deal with it? You deal with it by improving the social and economic condition of the countries from which the illegals are coming. Because people will always try to escape desperation. Doesn't matter how big of a wall Donald Trump builds desperate people will take desperate measures and illegals will come in the faintest hope that they can improve their lives. People are so desperate that they will sell themselves or take on huge amounts of debt to climb on board an overcrowded  unseaworthy boat and drown at sea when the boat sinks. You think walls and fences and armed border guards with shoot on sight instructions are going to stop those desperate people from taking that chance? Help make Mexico and Central America more properous and socially stable and there won't be desperate people looking to escape their hopeless situations. Then all the immigrants that do come are people you want because they make your country even better. Let the world fall into chaos and ruin and all those problems will eventually arrive on your doorstep and your door won't be strong enough to keep them out.