Look at how many Americans truly love Donald Trump!

[DonFerrari]

Soundwave said:

Rpruett said:

You're missing the point, that the United States has been a huge contributor to the rebuilding process underway in China.  Between NAFTA and China,  we've essentially watched businesses moving their facilities over the border, manufacturing products and bringing them back into the US for virtually nothing.  

Today -  The business pays cheaper wages out to the foreign employees,  production remains the same and their sales remain the same.  Trump's big mention has been to start increasing incentives(and punishments)  for the companies that choose to operate in this manner.    The net goal of this -- is to increase in investment in Amerca to maintain the profitability that they're seeking.   Reducing one of the highest corporate taxes in the world is a good start to multiple steps that should be taken to create incentives to invest in America.

If you're running a big corporation,  you need to have reasons that are prohibitive/not cost effective to move your production to China. 

What Trump wisely realizes is that not everyone is meant for a college education.  Not everyone is destined for greatness.  For people in this category,  they need jobs.  Manufacturing is a HUGE industry that the United States has completely lost.  That process started with the signing of NAFTA and has continued  to increase globally. The USA has to bring back this type of work and you'll see a drastic increase in employment.   

 The United States simply doesn't "make" much of anything anymore.   We're consumers, not producers.   We're trying to pump kids today out with college educations and their piece of paper and they still have no quantifiable skills and people wonder why they can't get hired, after all they have this piece of paper.  

You need a blend of both,  you can't run a country with a bunch of consumers.  Otherwise you start to see what we have for several years which is an increasing wealth disparity between the lower and upper classes.  The upper class will continue to be wealthy,  they will operate in a way that benefits their bottom line.  The people who suffer when you export business as we have is only the lower class.   NAFTA was essentially signed into law in 1994 --  and since the late 90s, we've watched the wealth disparity between the Lower and Upper class dramatically increase.

Why should the US make anything anymore? 

If I'm running a billion dollar corporation my allegiances are not to any country, they are to my shareholders who are putting pressure on me to deliver maximum profit every year. 

The fact of the matter is modern manufacturing in 2015 (since it's not 1970 or even 1980 anymore) is dramatically different. 

Are American workers willing to work at the salary that millions upon millions of Chinese workers are willing to work at? Are they willing to work 12, something 14-16 hours a day? Are they willing to work without medical, dental, vacation, etc. like Chinese workers do?

If the answer is no, then ultimately most corporations are going to opt to make things in China. No trade agreement is going to really deter that at a mass level. 

Trump knows full well that a trade war with China doesn't help anyone. The Chinese economy has been a huge boon to American investors and they provide us with a ton of cheap goods and buy a ton of our bonds on top of that. If anything it's probably good for global stability that nowadays, superpowers like China, Russia, US, etc. can only push each other so much, because they're so economically dependant on each other that doing something stupid (like going to war with each other) is pretty much a non-starter. Sure they'll talk shit to each other now and again, but no one's actually going to do something ala World War II. 

So there are pros and cons to everything. Yes the US "made more shit" in say the 1960s/70s/80s, but the population also lived under the threat that a nuclear attack from Russia could end their lives at any moment. 

Beyond that manufacturing is set for another revolution in the next 10-30 years ... robotic automation. A lot of jobs can simply be replaced by robots. Trump knows all this, he just plays this issue up because it riles up a portion of his base. 

And for the people that are unwillingy to work for less than a certain amount we give them social benefits and we settle everything...