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DerNebel said:

So your whole argument for FFXIII not being bad is "look at XII"?

I didn't say XIIs story and characters are good, they aren't, but the game was open and had tons of different stuff to do. And the combat certainly was a lot more tactical than XIIIs, plus it didn't have that stupid thing where when the leader dies it's game over. Tons of prior FF games had good side content, VI-IX most definitely had it. In XIII you don't even have optional Summons to find. For like 20 hours or more of the game it gives you no other option but to strictly follow its path.

Bolded: Are you trying to redefine RPG elements are now?

And if you're trying to suggest that VII, VIII and X are worse than XIII then just lol.

The game was TOO big was my complaint and quite a few felt that way ...

Yes FFXII is certainly more tactical despite the fact that FFXIII was harder and had level caps throughout the game ...

Who cares whether or not I am trying to redefine RPG elements when most gamers don't know what an RPG is ... 

@Bold "I guess all other FF games ASIDE from VII, VIII, and X suck" ...