Tom Brady is clear, Suspension is lifted

[Robert_Downey_Jr.]

mornelithe said:

Robert_Downey_Jr. said:

so you're lumping him in with Ray Rice, the saints, and AP?  Works for me!

So if you wanna live in your little bubble where you still believe these titles are legit then fine just don't act like one judge's decision overwrites the destruction of evidence Brady participated in

As I said before, this isn't about comparisons.  You claimed a lack of knowledge about any other player who'd taken a suspension this far.  I was immediately able to point out 4, w/in the past 2 years, which really doesn't make you a very good source for...any kind of information on, well, anything (Though, it does go to show how you operate in an actual debate, attempting to wordsmith your way around your own lack of knowledge).  This, of course, is only magnified by the fact you're still regurgitating the leagues talking points, that were trashed by the Wells Report (By Wells' own testimony, no less), and the Appeals transcript itself.  But, as I said before, it's clear you haven't read either of the aforementioned documents, and as such, your level of understanding about this situation is about what you'd expect.

You can read all you want and hide behind legal rulings.  I operate on likelihood.  Call me crazy but I don't hold the same legal process for murderers as I do for cheating in football.  If it looks like a cheater, acts like a cheater, and has multiple instances where it's pretty clear it cheated, not being proven beyond a shred of a doubt factors little into my thoughts.  I'm not trying to get Tom Brady sent to jail.  I'm simply pointing out the ruinous effect these controversies have had on his and his team's reputation.  These things don't come out of nowhere and this isn't a "they're just good so people hate" scenario.  If that were the case I would hate the Spurs or the Giants (baseball) or the Blackhawks.  I don't.  I also don't hate the 80s 9rs, 70s Steelers, or 60s Packers all of whom won as many or more championships.  There's a reason the Patriots are singled out and it ain't all made up.  There's also a reason a New England fan's usual reaction (not yours but many) is either "salty" or "let's move on" or "jealous."  It's because deep down they know they're guilty and that these things don't mean a whole lot when every time you win it's surrounded by controvercy.  Sorry to you Boston fans that the team's reputation is ruined and their rings tarnished.  I do like the Red Sox though so further proof I'm not biased against Boston or winning teams.