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Michelasso said:
Johnw1104 said:


I fixed that for you :D

It wasn't bad, it just wasn't stellar as most main series Final Fantasy games are. Metacritic and user scores seem to support this though, again, they're not saying it's bad. One can criticize a game without hating it. This certainly fits on this list, as well as Final Fantasy X.

Otherwise, I'd say zelda has a few, including II, wind waker, and skyward sword. Starcraft II wasn't universally received, but that's because the first was so popular and played to death that the second had no chance of pleasing that segment of their fanbase. The latest smash bros game faces a similar situation with the Melee elitists.

Fallout 3 and TES: Oblivion also met with some ridicule. Sims 3 & 4... Pokemon X & Y...  Super Mario Sunshine...There's plenty :p

edit: for the record, I enjoyed all of these and loved most.


Well, I think we reached the common agreement that Final Fantasy is the most divisive franchise. Apart from the original FFX-2, that game is simply broken.

Said that your "fixing" is factually wrong. FFXIII is the fourth most sold FF game, close to FF VIII. And it keeps selling, also on PC. So it has the critics and user reviews, althoug not stellars (but still great) and the popularity.

Then I am not sure what you meant with "FF X also fits on the list". Are you trying to say that FFX, the best FF ever made is inferior to, I dunno, that childish FF IX? Blasphemous people in the good ol' times were put at the stake for much less!! :p


Lol "childish" IX... I feel no compulsion to explain why that assessment is silly, as I suspect you're trolling me :p

I listed X because it IS divisive, perhaps moreso than any FF game in fact. The main issue is that it was indeed a good game (I enjoyed it), but it marked the most overt transition into the linear, modern RPG we see today. I finished the game in about 14 hours without a strategy guide... That's just ridiculous by RPG standards.

Given your fondness for XIII and that X is your favorite, though, it's quite clear why we disagree here. You really like the new style of RPGs, whereas I long for what Final Fantasy used to be. Neither is more correct than the other, it's just a matter of preference.

Also, we've definitely just proven that Final Fantasy is the most divisive franchise haha