"Naughty Dog's greed is out of control"

[Faelco]

LudicrousSpeed said:

Faelco said:

Are you sure we play the same TLOU MP game? Really? 

 

I use sometimes the Bomb expert 3 skill. Yes, it's good. Yes, it allows me to escape certain death or to get a kill with a smoke bomb, especially when I'm 1v1. Yes, I like it. But it cost a lot to equip, like all level 3 skills. My Bomb expert 3 build has one weapon and 2 skills only, so no, it's not overpowered. I like other builds with more skills too, and they're just as powerful. It's about taste. 

 

Same thing about the shotgun and the crossbow. The crossbow is even a bonus weapon, and you have to buy it on the map, no? (and it's not cheap at all IIRC) I'm a lot more afraid of a good sniper rifle than a crossbow. You can be OS by a sniper (and I mean dead, not on the ground). If I'm shot by a crossbow (when the guy can finally buy it), I heal myself to stop the bleeding (or I'm healed by a teammate) and I go kill the guy at short range after that, where crossbows are less useful. Easy enough. And I don't play against a lot of good players with crossbows, so it's even easier. It can be a pain, sure, but really not more than other players. Like I said, I bought the crossbow and used it a few times. Not good enough compared to my bow and its price. 

 

The guys with shotguns usually do believe they're in CoD and run to shot us like idiots. They're always the first to die if you're at least a bit aware of what's happening (the guy is running at you? 2 arrows in the chest or 1 in the head and he's dead...). Generic run and gun TPS? lol. The guys playing like that ragequit a lot before the third round when they don't understand why they died twice without seeing what happened and without any support. One of my teammate did exactly this 2 hours ago, the last time I played. He died everytime 1v3 or 1v4, alone 20 meters ahead of us, and ragequit after a few useless deaths like that. Sometimes I feel like the 200-weeks or more players gave their controller to their 12 years old CoD-loving little brother... 

 

The deadliest and more terrifying players are still the good stealth players, with the bow or other silent weapons (even the knife!), killing your teammates one by one without being seen and without a noise. Even 1v4, you can win with skill and care. The crossbow or the shotgun won't help you do that more than other weapons.

 

I don't know about the competitive level, but for the public games, you're exaggerating a lot. At least at this level, for the majority of gamers, it's not pay2win, it's more learn2play.

No, we dont play the same LoU MP because i dont play LoU MP anymore. DLC ruined it.

I know it takes points to don Bomb 3, as all level 3 perks do. Its unbalanced and is too strong. You dont need a lot of weapons or other perks when you have free shiv kills. The rest of your post is your basic "get gud" message people post on message boards. 

Yes, maybe for a few weeks after the DLCs the game was messy because a lot of people tried the new skills and weapons. It's not the case anymore after a few weeks. You can have fun with your new paying toy for a while, but when you continously die because that cool toy comes with 5 bullets only and you find yourself unarmed in every fight after the first one, you come back to more useful weapons. It's what I did with the paying DLC gun, great but points-expensive and with too few bullets, so not useful enough (or even more expensive if you have to buy bullets for every fight or buy a skill to have more bullets). 

 

I don't say only "get gud", I say "don't exaggerate/rage and try". I was really angry the first time I died because of the blood loss of a crossbow, and complained about this pay2win weapon. The second time too. And then I tried it, I saw that it was not unbalanced at all and had drawbacks. And I got used to fight against it and I don't consider it better than another weapon anymore, it just ask for another approach, like anything in the game. I'm not killed by the weapon but by the player, and when I died, the guy usually could have killed me with any weapon in the game, it's useless to complain about his crossbow. 

 

There isn't a lot of paying weapons on the field anymore IMO. Even level 500 or 900-something players don't use it more than other weapons. There is a reason to it. You can like a DLC weapon and have fun with it. You can be dominated by a good player with a DLC weapon. But you won't see a bad player getting good just by buying a DLC weapon. You won't see a guy dominating a game only because of his new DLC weapon or skill. The skilled free players still own the paying bad players, without a sweat. These skills and weapons give you other possibilities but not more advantage than other skills or weapons. That's why I'm saying it's not pay2win.